Message from @Fitzydog

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2019-10-12 23:22:51 UTC  

Anyone know what the fuck is happening in Ecuador?

2019-10-12 23:24:05 UTC  

Protests against economic reforms

2019-10-12 23:24:38 UTC  

many native indigenous are part of the protest

2019-10-12 23:25:57 UTC  

Good reforms, or bad?

2019-10-12 23:26:14 UTC  

I ask, because Ecuador is a socialist backwater

2019-10-12 23:26:16 UTC  

I've not been following it closely enough

If you have to ask, its another scoop of socialism

Now get back to work peasants and stop complaining about being hungry

2019-10-12 23:29:07 UTC  

From what I'm reading so far, the President Lenín Moreno has made economic reforms to liberalise the economy

2019-10-12 23:30:19 UTC  

>Lenin

<:think_hang:378717098903470080>

2019-10-12 23:31:57 UTC  

Ok adolf

2019-10-12 23:35:56 UTC  

-liberalisation of prices of diesel and gas
-lifting of tariffs on heavy machinery
-lifting of tariffs on imports of computer and mobile devices
-flexibilising the labour market
-subsidies for 300,000 families

but this comes at the cost of heavy austerity measures which mostly affects the native populations. In particular the liberalisation of the diesel prices means that there no longer will be a diesel subsidy which they depend on (1.300 million dollars a year).

2019-10-12 23:36:43 UTC  

They keep using the word "Populism" in a way that I don't understand

2019-10-12 23:39:38 UTC  

@Fitzydog wdym?

2019-10-12 23:43:11 UTC  

Apparently, it's just ambiguous for everyone

2019-10-12 23:43:32 UTC  

Surprisingly well made wiki article btw

2019-10-12 23:46:29 UTC  

It's a way of certain elites to use the masses against other elites

2019-10-12 23:46:32 UTC  

I'm guessing

2019-10-12 23:48:08 UTC  

@Pope Pingu That's one definition, yes

2019-10-12 23:48:23 UTC  

Yus

2019-10-12 23:48:35 UTC  

Based brownie points for me

2019-10-12 23:50:03 UTC  

if a politician wants to do what "the people" want he is evil. /s

2019-10-12 23:51:05 UTC  

Populism is essentially true democracy

2019-10-12 23:51:26 UTC  

we need to listen to what the elite wants as they "knows" what best for us

2019-10-12 23:54:20 UTC  

@Pope Pingu Correction, true LIBERALISM

2019-10-13 01:02:56 UTC  

SO my friend just told me what human rights are "human right implies simply by existing you deserve, ought not be denied, access too it(the right)." what do you guys think of this?

2019-10-13 01:09:54 UTC  

I think that's the commie version

2019-10-13 01:14:38 UTC  

Deserving I dont think so

2019-10-13 01:14:57 UTC  

But denying access is authoritarian

2019-10-13 01:15:13 UTC  

But then it also depends on denied what

2019-10-13 01:15:38 UTC  

I guess basic needs for human success

2019-10-13 01:16:08 UTC  

But I mean you can deny access to stuff like kiddy porn

2019-10-13 01:16:23 UTC  

That's not really a right

2019-10-13 01:17:06 UTC  

demanding other peoples stuff just becuse you exist, like what most commies does, then you can fuck off

2019-10-13 01:17:23 UTC  

@Stan Stump Well, I don't believe in human rights, I believe that you only have a right to that which you are willing to defend

2019-10-13 01:18:21 UTC  

what we call human rights in the west, have been carved out and defended with countless life's in the past

2019-10-13 01:19:09 UTC  

And in a state of nature, you would defend with your life the things that a normal person would state you have a right to

2019-10-13 01:21:32 UTC  

Well I mean you can't really defend if you're a slave in an authoritarian country

2019-10-13 01:21:45 UTC  

That's why we go to war for breaches of human rights