Message from @DanielKO

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2018-03-23 09:16:09 UTC  

Well, balck science man is no black economist man

2018-03-23 09:16:12 UTC  

Unless they can't actually bring it back to earth, in which case it's worth absolutely nothing

2018-03-23 09:16:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426670573696057344/unknown.png

2018-03-23 09:16:52 UTC  

Of course, everyone ignores the amount of fuel to haul an asteroid around.

2018-03-23 09:16:55 UTC  

He is upset about the photo of Sargon with PJW

2018-03-23 09:16:58 UTC  

Even so, let's assume they get it back. How heavy is this asteroid we're talking about?

2018-03-23 09:17:20 UTC  

Let's assume it's either of pure gold or platinum, we'll figure out which later. How many kg we talking here?

2018-03-23 09:17:59 UTC  

probably thousands or millions of tons

2018-03-23 09:18:58 UTC  

Then we've a simple solution. Rather than a full on sale of it, they have to sell in intervals, only so much at a time.

2018-03-23 09:19:34 UTC  

At the highest end, we have asteroids in the 10^15 tons range.

2018-03-23 09:19:37 UTC  

That way instead of them just crashing the price because now there's an oversupply, there's a level of control to the price. This is all assuming they even sell it to begin with.

2018-03-23 09:20:25 UTC  

@dko you can't bring back a moon sized asteirod

2018-03-23 09:20:25 UTC  

because tbh I wouldn't put it past someone like elon to just make a space museum and put it in there

2018-03-23 09:20:52 UTC  

I know, the point is, they can be fucking huge.

2018-03-23 09:20:53 UTC  

I mean I'm assuming for the sake of logistics we aren't talking about actually hauling it back to earth

2018-03-23 09:21:04 UTC  

You bring however much you can haul.

2018-03-23 09:21:14 UTC  

I figured we're talking about them having legal ownership and hiring a mining company to take pieces of it off to haul back

2018-03-23 09:21:32 UTC  

He just keeps pumping them out every 5 minutes a new tweet...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426671835669725185/unknown.png

2018-03-23 09:21:34 UTC  

The trick is to find asteroids that are remnants of protoplanets that underwent differentiation.

2018-03-23 09:21:49 UTC  

So dense elements are separated from lighter elements.

2018-03-23 09:22:19 UTC  

Instead of having to separate dirt and rock from what you really want, it's mostly pure already, thanks to gravity.

2018-03-23 09:23:21 UTC  

I figured we were talking about it being pure from the start, for the sake of argument

2018-03-23 09:24:06 UTC  

>Their latest figure for all the gold in the world is 171,300 tonnes

2018-03-23 09:24:24 UTC  

Looks like it isn't hard to go above that figure, in terms of asteroid mass.

2018-03-23 09:25:47 UTC  

Anyway, what I was pondering was, what would be the economical and political implications of bringing such an abundant amount of rare material from space, down to Earth.

2018-03-23 09:25:55 UTC  

Is there anyone here who keeps up with how the tech for virtual reality is going? I've been interested in it because I want to see how far it goes (because I want better vr for the vidya games), but I haven't kept up with it lately.

2018-03-23 09:26:03 UTC  

Could be a copper asteroid even.

2018-03-23 09:26:17 UTC  

Oh, easy answer. If it lands anywhere other than china, it's going to be bought from that country by china.

2018-03-23 09:26:41 UTC  

Even if the country can't transport it and so china just buys the land it's on

2018-03-23 09:26:45 UTC  

Imagine the USA, and other countries, deem it a threat to the global economy.

2018-03-23 09:27:15 UTC  

They wouldn't do that. The worst they'd do is decide we can only mine out so much of it at a time, to keep the prices stable.

2018-03-23 09:27:31 UTC  

Imagine if Russia tows the asteroid to Earth.

2018-03-23 09:28:03 UTC  

They wouldn't get to. The US would probably shoot it out of orbit if Russia was getting it, and then claim it was a terrorist attack by Iraq.

2018-03-23 09:28:19 UTC  

Naturally it'd work because ISIS would fucking *love* to claim they can bomb space.

2018-03-23 09:28:31 UTC  

uh

2018-03-23 09:28:42 UTC  

It's a bit related to the idea of a "duplicator/synthesizer" like the ones in Star Trek TNG. Could such a wonder even be introduced into our civilization?

2018-03-23 09:29:07 UTC  

Aren't we already going down a road something like that with 3D printing?

2018-03-23 09:29:23 UTC  

Sudden abundance when there are plenty of parties that benefit from the scarcity.

2018-03-23 09:29:36 UTC  

Yeah, but 3D printing is very limited.

2018-03-23 09:29:45 UTC  

We can't print molecules, we can't synthesize atoms.

2018-03-23 09:29:49 UTC  

And it expands the more and more the tech is developed.