But I remember Radion saying if it doesn't have a stock it's technically an handgun, so can you just get the stock off and than it's ok?

that was in 2016

Radeon is speaking about US laws though right?

What laws are you speaking of?

Australia literally has lists of specific guns you are not allowed to own at all

^

I was talking about Australian laws

Having a list actually makes more sense

You can have more nuance this way

Well they outlaw types and also specify certain guns as well

hence the ban on semi-auto, pump action all together

they also have a law about not being able to buy any gun that has been used by any military world wide within x number of years

Does that include handguns?

The military owned part

just rifles

Then there are certain calibers that are also outlawed

im guessing that make the available alternatives more expensive?

no surplus?

From what I seen there yeah, everything is very expensive

So basically anything that useful for anything other than sports

And I count hunting with that

Well yeah, owning a gun for protection is illegal there idk if you saw the picture of the news article from Australia after their law change before

Oh yeah I saw that

So hunting and sports are considered their only "valid reasons" for applying for a license and going through the written and physical tests

does that count protection from wildlife?

If you own over a certain amount of land or have the permission on it, you can fire rifles and shotguns on the land but you can't for anywhere else

That includes shooting pest animals on that land

they also have limits on magazine size

I think the lower class license is 5rd mag and the other class is 10rd mag

For like bolt actions

thats an affront to my right to have terrible aim

lmao

and like lever action shotguns also have a limit

I think it 8

IIRC

could be 5 though

I remember hearing about a whole load of shit from there of the government trying to ban this specific brand of lever action shotgun calling it "new rapidfire technology" and owners were modifying it to get like an extra 2 rounds in it or something

(it was just a regular lever action shotgun btw)

i'd hate to be in a country where apartments have to have bearproof trash bins and not have whatever firepower i thought necessary

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-14/rapid-fire-shotgun-import-concerns-gun-control-activists/6619226

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/malcolm-turnbull-wont-take-david-leyonhjelms-shotgun-demand-off-negotiating-table/news-story/112cf1177365d466b9c9f81fd12c79e9