Message from @Ruggwain
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Germany is blech
We elected Hitler though <:think_woke:378717098681171988>
do you think the holocaust would have happened if the german people hadn't been disarmed?
yes
Easily
how do you oppress an armed people?
And hitler didnt sit for as long as other german leaders
Propaganda
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Hitler managed to make the commies flip and essentially secured 80% of the people's votes
those 20% weren't gonna do shit
they just accepted it for the most part if they weren't imprisoned and the amount of people imprisoned during the start of the Reich were not enough to stage a gun riot
the democratic aspect behind Hitler's rise was the most tragic part
an armed 20% is more than enough.
see: LA riots.
and it happened in part because the people were still Monarchist
yeah but those 20% aren't going to riot <:think_woke:378717098681171988>
They didn't see the Nazis as we do today
lol no its because mainland europeans are naturally collectivist.
In Germany specifically it's because they were staunch monarchists and the aspect of democracy was weird to them
hence why Hindenburg was elected
Yeah
Being a staunch monarchist and WW1 general
I don't think you quite know what happened during the LA riots. armed shop owners stopped the looters, not the police.
Theres a difference between a city and an entire fucking country
there is a difference between rioters and the military dude
I think you're forgetting that in the utopian scenario that the people who voted for Zentrum instead of Hitler picked up arms the SA and outside forces would have slaughtered them
SA?
SA was the nazi street gang during the weimar republic
Brownshirts?
after Hitler's rise he assassinated the leadership and fused it with the SS
yes
so youre saying just give up?
don't resist?
no
People did resist
even if you take a few assholes down with you its better than letting them cart you off.
but they resisted in ways that were more efficient than 10 man gun riots
I'm with you, i'm just being realistic about the 20% number
A lot of people in those days saw a choice of Communism vs Nazism, those who didn't want Communism chose Nazism which is apparently why the churches were sympathetic to Nazis because it was Communists who were destroying churches