Message from @redd

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2018-04-03 01:54:02 UTC  

I'm growing up with one parent, my life is going good, and thats because my mother is so tomboy to the point of basically being a guy.

2018-04-03 01:54:02 UTC  

@radeon while there may be plenty of examples children growing up without both a mother and father, they are still in dysfunctional families

2018-04-03 01:54:06 UTC  

@Deleted User Kinda like here locally where a lesbian couple adopted 6 kids just to get the govt check

2018-04-03 01:54:15 UTC  

and there's also a ihgher rate of suicide in children that have homosexual parents

2018-04-03 01:54:19 UTC  
2018-04-03 01:54:27 UTC  

By whose standards?

2018-04-03 01:54:38 UTC  

Human standards

2018-04-03 01:54:42 UTC  

See if i can find it

2018-04-03 01:54:46 UTC  

Who are you to decide what is or isn't a valid family?

2018-04-03 01:54:58 UTC  

Biology

2018-04-03 01:55:04 UTC  

I like Milo's take on this, he publically stated that he never wants to adopt because he believes that he can never provide what a mother can

2018-04-03 01:55:19 UTC  

Appeal to nature is not an argument

2018-04-03 01:55:30 UTC  

I disagree

2018-04-03 01:55:33 UTC  

Appeal to biological sciences?

2018-04-03 01:55:37 UTC  

lol wut?

2018-04-03 01:55:39 UTC  

people who cant have their own kids, dont have a right to kids.

2018-04-03 01:55:41 UTC  

Yeah, but just because Milo is gay and says something you like doesnt mean it speaks for all of them

2018-04-03 01:55:45 UTC  

There is no reason why two same sex partners can't raise a child, it's simply not true

2018-04-03 01:55:59 UTC  

That kid is going to be fucked

2018-04-03 01:56:15 UTC  

@Werlf he still has a point, regardless of whether it applies to every one

2018-04-03 01:56:43 UTC  

@Fitzydog what kind of fucked <:pedobear:371557062850904064>

2018-04-03 01:56:53 UTC  

I agree with Bakeon

2018-04-03 01:57:02 UTC  

Do you think same sex couples have a positive right to adopt?

2018-04-03 01:57:20 UTC  

do you mean they should or do already?

2018-04-03 01:57:20 UTC  

A child doens't need '2 human bio units' to fulfill a childhood.

2018-04-03 01:57:22 UTC  

Also do you have an argument why gay people should have the legal right to have kids taken away?

2018-04-03 01:57:40 UTC  

"I dislike this lifestyle" isn't a valid answer

2018-04-03 01:57:47 UTC  

taken away how?

2018-04-03 01:58:01 UTC  

if it is their biological kid then no

2018-04-03 01:58:01 UTC  

A child needs strong female and male figures in their life day in and out

2018-04-03 01:58:09 UTC  

@radeon if there were a law against gay couples adopting, it would make sense to take away already adopted children, yes

2018-04-03 01:58:28 UTC  

3am typing here dammit

2018-04-03 01:58:36 UTC  

what about a biological child? @redd

2018-04-03 01:58:40 UTC  

That is preferable but keep in mind that most gay couples fall loosely into the same family gender roles despite being same sex

2018-04-03 01:58:52 UTC  

@radeon Source?

2018-04-03 01:59:07 UTC  

Also yea plenty of gay people have biological kids with one parent

2018-04-03 01:59:09 UTC  

Because most LGBT individuals are against 'the patriarchy'

2018-04-03 01:59:10 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't understand your question, I am talking about gay couples.

2018-04-03 01:59:33 UTC  

By this same logic would you not also take kids from single parents?

2018-04-03 01:59:45 UTC  

oh do you mean extending this argument to taking children away from abusive/neglegent straight couples?

2018-04-03 01:59:47 UTC  

yeah like a woman who had a kid with a man, then got married to a woman later