Message from @Deleted User

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2018-04-03 02:36:33 UTC  

It limits citizenship to those who actually WANT to participate, and then demonstrate they have the capactiy to do so

2018-04-03 02:37:06 UTC  

Why?

2018-04-03 02:37:09 UTC  

It makes no limitations as to the qualifications for volunteering, other than age

2018-04-03 02:37:31 UTC  

How does that help anyone? Youre just creating a class divide.

2018-04-03 02:37:50 UTC  

Citizens vs non-citizens

2018-04-03 02:38:02 UTC  

Also add a 3rd area of congress that the deputy governor represents his state if 33percent vote no the bill is killed before it goes to the presidents desk

2018-04-03 02:38:09 UTC  

Because the fundamental basis for democracy is that the citizens crete it in exchange for a responsibility to it

2018-04-03 02:38:20 UTC  

Democracy is gay

2018-04-03 02:38:25 UTC  

it's called a state

2018-04-03 02:38:25 UTC  

Republicanism

2018-04-03 02:38:26 UTC  

would you deny someone studying to be a doctor the right to vote but you would grant it to a cook in the military?

2018-04-03 02:38:35 UTC  

I said service

2018-04-03 02:38:39 UTC  

What problem are you actually trying to solve? Because everything you've pointed at so far boils down to "let's deny voting rights to demographics that disagree with me"

2018-04-03 02:38:39 UTC  

Not military

2018-04-03 02:39:13 UTC  

I am asking you to serve your country for 2 years

2018-04-03 02:39:16 UTC  

Military

2018-04-03 02:39:19 UTC  

I want to limit the voting potential from bad actors manipulating the public into a position

2018-04-03 02:39:19 UTC  

So what if you don't want to serve or can't, you just deny them their rights?

2018-04-03 02:39:27 UTC  

Volunteer work

2018-04-03 02:39:27 UTC  

This is fucking retarded lol

2018-04-03 02:39:37 UTC  

Peace corps

2018-04-03 02:39:43 UTC  

@radeon everyone can serve

2018-04-03 02:39:48 UTC  

Civil service

2018-04-03 02:39:50 UTC  

***What problem does this solve?***

2018-04-03 02:39:53 UTC  

no matter what

2018-04-03 02:40:12 UTC  

It gives by in to the system

2018-04-03 02:40:17 UTC  

Want me to answer this?

2018-04-03 02:40:32 UTC  

yes

2018-04-03 02:40:35 UTC  

"bad actors manipulating the public" is poisoning the well. That is entirely your opinion.

2018-04-03 02:40:40 UTC  

you guys are getting hot headed over this

2018-04-03 02:40:52 UTC  

Alright here goes, stay tuned

2018-04-03 02:41:30 UTC  

Stay tuned for autism?

2018-04-03 02:41:31 UTC  

The argument for this was that the responsibility of voting should be reserved for those who have demonstrated an understanding of individual sacrifice for the greater good, i.e. voting is not about getting something for myself but about getting something for everybody else

2018-04-03 02:41:44 UTC  

This is why

2018-04-03 02:41:51 UTC  

Duty

2018-04-03 02:42:03 UTC  

To have rights you must understand duty

2018-04-03 02:42:12 UTC  

The stratocratic system limits citizenship rights to individuals ABLE BODIED OR NOT, who have shown a commitment and a desire to participate in the democratic system.

2018-04-03 02:42:24 UTC  

You're simply choosing groups who hold opinions or do things you disapprove of to deny voting rights to. This is based entirely on your own personal opinions about what is and isn't beneficial, not to mention the fact that you have absolutely no argument for doing any of this

2018-04-03 02:42:36 UTC  

Strawman

2018-04-03 02:42:58 UTC  

I just posted the argument

2018-04-03 02:43:17 UTC  

your duty is lesser than mines