Bonus irony is the Soviet crews who got to use lend-lease M4s instead of T-34s were super happy with them

Including but not limited to the ability to have a better chance of escaping from the tank when hit

this is my first tank, so i dont have much basis for comparison yet

do you have something better i can look at besides wikipedia

I like the stories of the soviets climbing on their tanks for armor

/historychan

fair nuff

hmmm

Zaloga

Jentz

Ironically even the guy in the video you posted above

I could also dig out some old forum discussions on the M4

just not right now

because it's 10am

Which video above the Wargaming.net one?

yup

Chieftan

i thought it was really good

the high res detail was crucial, the old photos and docus arent so helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIlrAosYiM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjp_4jY8pY

yeah this dude is cool af

I'll do some rummaging a bit later

Find some shit fo' yo'

This might

*m i g h t*

open your eyes on quite a few things about the raw combat capability of the M4

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/

haha, did not expect to find help 😄

Green = no pen

Now lets flip that over

Even with the short US 75mm:

anyhoo, chase me up on it later

is this what you always butt heads about the M4 then?

many things

but a lot of people will start with 'on-paper' arguments

nevermind that tanks don't fight each other in a vacuum

You've heard the Ronson thing too, I presume

ya

heh.