Message from @M4Gunner
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Payment Processors today are essentially what the Catholic Church was. Even the Templar knights weren't above their scrutiny.
Is there any neutral processors?
I don't think so
I wonder if the crackdown on crypto is partly due to payment processors
I don't care if people find new ways to pay for services.
I can see payment processors care
It removes their ability to weaponize money they don't own
people are talking sβ β β about HSBC for claiming to be politically neutral and supporting conservative party financially, but thats britian, and this may not be helpful info
The increasing dependency on electronic payments is alienating and extinguishing the crowd of people who deny trusting the banks for securing or using their money.
Worth isn't worth anything unless you're using money that you don't own.
Although this has been a force in the world for a long time, it's increasingly becoming the only option.
tell your subscribers to mail you cash
its unreasonable, but not infeasible
Honestly, that's a pretty realistic way to go about it.
How much capital do you think it would take for someone successful to start their own international payment proc service?
There's also a factor you need to weigh in: Banks can refuse using your services.
Sites can refuse using your services.
It would be more concerning to keep the processor running than starting it.
so they'd have to start their own international bank as well?
likely.
Yeah.
could run the numbers and try to find an investor
its a pretty drastic solution of course
The smear campaigns from competing banks would be unreal.
but someone somewhere who worries about this has money
haha yeah probly
banks are also sometimes undistinguishable from governing bodies.
have banks run any smear campaigns i should look into?
Look at silk road, and how smear campaigns were ran against bitcoin.
Again, I don't like bitcoin, but that shouldn't matter. It's having the option for people to use that matters.
i lack understanding of crypto
that lack doesnt seem helpful in troubleshooting this particular problem
I dislike people who speak about crypto replacing fiat
I would also refer to the tulip crisis. I was told to look it up recently.
Sargon needs to address MakerSupport, since he's one of the first big people on there.
maybe he'll get on Maven
Anyone running a similar platform is going to want him
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it would be great if Maven was successful because it could show us some good advertisers, people could vote with their wallets