Message from @M4Gunner

Discord ID: 437570818764046346


2018-04-22 10:55:58 UTC  

Payment Processors today are essentially what the Catholic Church was. Even the Templar knights weren't above their scrutiny.

2018-04-22 10:56:25 UTC  

Is there any neutral processors?

2018-04-22 10:58:06 UTC  

I don't think so

2018-04-22 11:00:37 UTC  

I wonder if the crackdown on crypto is partly due to payment processors

2018-04-22 11:00:55 UTC  

I don't care if people find new ways to pay for services.

2018-04-22 11:01:12 UTC  

I can see payment processors care

2018-04-22 11:01:27 UTC  

It removes their ability to weaponize money they don't own

2018-04-22 11:02:47 UTC  

people are talking s††† about HSBC for claiming to be politically neutral and supporting conservative party financially, but thats britian, and this may not be helpful info

2018-04-22 11:03:11 UTC  

The increasing dependency on electronic payments is alienating and extinguishing the crowd of people who deny trusting the banks for securing or using their money.

2018-04-22 11:03:52 UTC  

Worth isn't worth anything unless you're using money that you don't own.

2018-04-22 11:04:46 UTC  

Although this has been a force in the world for a long time, it's increasingly becoming the only option.

2018-04-22 11:05:56 UTC  

tell your subscribers to mail you cash

2018-04-22 11:06:21 UTC  

its unreasonable, but not infeasible

2018-04-22 11:06:24 UTC  

Honestly, that's a pretty realistic way to go about it.

2018-04-22 11:08:05 UTC  

How much capital do you think it would take for someone successful to start their own international payment proc service?

2018-04-22 11:08:32 UTC  

There's also a factor you need to weigh in: Banks can refuse using your services.

2018-04-22 11:08:38 UTC  

Sites can refuse using your services.

2018-04-22 11:08:51 UTC  

It would be more concerning to keep the processor running than starting it.

2018-04-22 11:09:54 UTC  

so they'd have to start their own international bank as well?

2018-04-22 11:10:07 UTC  

likely.

2018-04-22 11:10:12 UTC  

it seem easier to do in only one country

2018-04-22 11:10:17 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-04-22 11:11:04 UTC  

could run the numbers and try to find an investor

2018-04-22 11:11:22 UTC  

its a pretty drastic solution of course

2018-04-22 11:11:48 UTC  

The smear campaigns from competing banks would be unreal.

2018-04-22 11:11:56 UTC  

but someone somewhere who worries about this has money

2018-04-22 11:12:05 UTC  

haha yeah probly

2018-04-22 11:12:09 UTC  

banks are also sometimes undistinguishable from governing bodies.

2018-04-22 11:12:24 UTC  

have banks run any smear campaigns i should look into?

2018-04-22 11:12:46 UTC  

Look at silk road, and how smear campaigns were ran against bitcoin.

2018-04-22 11:13:10 UTC  

Again, I don't like bitcoin, but that shouldn't matter. It's having the option for people to use that matters.

2018-04-22 11:14:33 UTC  

i lack understanding of crypto

2018-04-22 11:14:50 UTC  

that lack doesnt seem helpful in troubleshooting this particular problem

2018-04-22 11:14:53 UTC  

I dislike people who speak about crypto replacing fiat

2018-04-22 11:15:45 UTC  

I would also refer to the tulip crisis. I was told to look it up recently.

2018-04-22 11:19:52 UTC  

Sargon needs to address MakerSupport, since he's one of the first big people on there.

2018-04-22 11:21:21 UTC  

maybe he'll get on Maven

2018-04-22 11:21:41 UTC  

Anyone running a similar platform is going to want him

https://twitter.com/AcademicAgent/status/987899280378691584

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2018-04-22 11:22:34 UTC  

it would be great if Maven was successful because it could show us some good advertisers, people could vote with their wallets