Message from @Jab

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2018-04-24 11:36:10 UTC  

Either way, it would require medications to become so available that the market cannot produce big pharma essentially.

2018-04-24 11:36:41 UTC  

essentially supply & demand acting as a counter-balance to the drastic growth of pharma companies.

2018-04-24 11:37:26 UTC  

I like the idea that we can pay more for better treatments for illnesses and disease, however we will hit a point where we kind of have almost everything that we need.

2018-04-24 11:37:36 UTC  

Prices drop over time in a proper market.

2018-04-24 11:37:52 UTC  

maybe we should all buy mexican vicodin

2018-04-24 11:38:38 UTC  

isnt a med expensive to keep in production if demand is too low?

2018-04-24 11:39:39 UTC  

yes

2018-04-24 11:40:02 UTC  

Over time with medical practices and manufacturing improvements, demand may be low however stock for supply may increase.

2018-04-24 11:40:04 UTC  

I'm not sure if we need this exactly before we can solve this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/438303108444192769/2018-04-24_04_38_26-The_Kardashev_Scale_-_Type_I_II_III_IV__V_Civilization.png

2018-04-24 11:40:38 UTC  

The definitions for Civ-1 are pretty diverse

2018-04-24 11:40:55 UTC  

gets weirder the more you go forward with that idea / design

2018-04-24 11:41:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/438303381115633684/2018-04-24_04_39_34-Kardashev_scale_-_Wikipedia.png

2018-04-24 11:41:17 UTC  

I think they are referring to antimatter / fusion cores

2018-04-24 11:41:43 UTC  

solar?

2018-04-24 11:41:43 UTC  

these are physicists

2018-04-24 11:42:02 UTC  

Doesn't mean they're always right. 😛

2018-04-24 11:42:29 UTC  

i dont see what it has to do with anything

2018-04-24 11:42:41 UTC  

I don't see where this conversation is going

2018-04-24 11:43:19 UTC  

When we have the abilities to manufacture a shit ton of meds, there will eventually be better business for medicine.

2018-04-24 11:43:29 UTC  

well that was your proposal to fix our medical business practice concerns, that we reach type 1

2018-04-24 11:43:31 UTC  

That may require a lot more power than we have right now

2018-04-24 11:44:05 UTC  

Our understanding of the universe and how to use it as a means to improve quality of living is certainly within the concept of civ-1

2018-04-24 11:44:18 UTC  

I haven't read any of this stuff in around 6 years

2018-04-24 11:44:20 UTC  

im not sure if our production capabilities are all that low that we cant actually get this stuff made

2018-04-24 11:44:36 UTC  

Well we can make medicine yes

2018-04-24 11:44:44 UTC  

most of their money i'd assume goes to R&D

2018-04-24 11:44:50 UTC  

Can we make enough of it to treat everyone with the problem at a reasonable cost? Far from it.

2018-04-24 11:45:10 UTC  

Will the shelf-life of the medicine be worth the cost for mass production?

2018-04-24 11:45:29 UTC  

It takes a lot of power to keep something really cold if that's needed.

2018-04-24 11:45:35 UTC  

ya

2018-04-24 11:45:41 UTC  

and we are talking about a growing population

2018-04-24 11:46:05 UTC  

i wonder if the drug Shkreli's company gouged the price on can be excused by cost of production for something almost nobody is buying

2018-04-24 11:46:33 UTC  

The demand is high but the supply is extremely low

2018-04-24 11:46:43 UTC  

taking the objective route he was maximizing his profit

2018-04-24 11:47:03 UTC  

taking the subjective route he was stalling the natural process of medical supply / distribution.

2018-04-24 11:48:05 UTC  

would you suggest any sort of policy reform for the way pharma companies operate, or that they should be left as is?

2018-04-24 11:48:31 UTC  

I don't feel confident enough with the lack of information and research on this topic to advise policies.

2018-04-24 11:49:12 UTC  

I am really saying that it's a pick-your-poison situation, with capitalism having an inevitable long-term benefit.

2018-04-24 11:49:23 UTC  

the most compelling argument against regulation to me, is that R&D will suffer

2018-04-24 11:50:46 UTC  

In a weird and brutal, yet truthful way, suffering is required for others to benefit.

2018-04-24 11:50:56 UTC  

It's also poetic; we are suffering for our children.