Message from @M4Gunner
Discord ID: 442952709549719552
Tired old debunked arguments
you can always just point them to previous debunkery
They are relics from the past like Cuba
I have some really interesting ideas to do with the political compass thing
Seems the further left you go, the more you think of the past and the farther right you go the more it thinks of the future, with the center being the present moment.
Make sense?
hm, youd have a hard time illustrating that with facts maybe
Like communism is based on historical determinism
to make a good future you need to look at the present and the past
i can only speak for myself but i'd place myself in the middle and that this is how i think
And the right is future speculation
Like Jesus returning and saving us all lol
I'd like to overlay religious ideology on the political compass as well
can you make that work on paper?
I think so
you have to prove your presuppositions
you think the right doesnt think about the past very much?
Hmm
Maybe inconsiderate about where things will take us
even if that's true, what does proving it accomplish? how does establishing this help further your goals?
it's a lot of work which may not prove valuable
Could help people gain insight
Well this is just an idea I'm floating around in my head right now
what makes you think this? anecdotal experience?
Well I mostly thinking about religious ideology which the far left and right appear to be keen on
the best way to see if a presupposition is true, is to try to prove it false
Like the left is new-age and the right is orthodox or something
fundamentalist
traditionalist?
Something like that
in family values? everything? economics?
foreign policy?
and if you're a conservative christian marxist
what then
I was doing a lot of research on the biblical origins of utopian socialism in relation to communism
yesh, its way too simplified
Our current pope is communist
links?
He was a Jesuit priest and they teach Liberation theology which was created by the KGB
if you want to say, people on the right think more about the future than the past, what's your Sample Size?
and where would you find enough information to establish that many people's mental habits?
hmm. There's many ways you can define left and right, and most of the times the definition are contradictory.