@Deleted User I'd love to see if I can have a chat with that commie bloke sargon chatted with. guy seems genuinely up for debate.

You know what is sad, living in the 3rd world country that is the UK

How does it feel to be in the laughing stock of the West

Pretty fine. I'm not an entire country after all.

I mean, I've put on a few pounds....

>Not identifying with your nationality

This country is fucked, what's there to identify with.

Ok, here is an idea

Imagine the thought that what a nation-state is

Is larger than the government

Their are values and principles embodied in a nation's history

What if you hate those value with a passion

Give an example?

Russia

All I can hear is Rucka Rucka Ali's remix

The Weeknd X Stranger Things X C418 - Stranger Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0M7rVDG6g

What values does Russia hold that you disagree with

In its history? Monarchy, Communism, Authoitarianism, etc.

Those aren't values, those are economic and political systems

@Jab after I listen to good paradies, I can't remember the original anymore

The values and principles that made this country great to begin with, sure. That I would absolutely consider part of my own identity as an englishman. but those values are not held as part of the general zeitgeist in britain anymore.

I'll give an example

Motherfuckin Sargon

In France you have Equality Liberty, Fraternity

@Jab fuck

And surrendering

I just hear "Motherfuckin Sargon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_df8u-_xbk

In the US you have Individual Exceptionalism, Freedom, and Law

In the UK

Pride, and Honor

Germany you have Efficiency and Hard work

There are values that are embodied by nations

Lol

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To shrug off your countrymen, is atleast in my view, no different than to shrug off your family

And what happens when your “fellow countrymen” do not respect those values

yeah, @Cream Man @Puma move to pol

Alright

You do everything in your power to change that