hierarchical causes refer for example to how my keyboard is able to be 3 feet off of the ground because it's held up by the table which is held up in turn by the floor etc

Son of a Banker is an atheist, however.

Right

I'm an atheist with the honest desire to learn otherwise

Yeah but that goes back to Aquinas argument from motion banker

He deals with that

my dick is held up by an ethot held up by her knees, held up by the floor, held up by the foundation etc etc

There's a few arguments that I believe rely on the principle that firstly everything has a cause and that there cannot be an infinite regress of causes

Yeah the unmoved mover

Argument from first cause etc whatever people call it

So what I'm having trouble with here is understanding why there can't be an infinite regress of causes

epic, why does an atheist pay piggy to nick, a catholic, thats kinda cucked

Cause nick is an intellectual beast

Get the book “shorter summa” by aquinas

yeah! convert! pagan!

He tries to deal with that in the first page. Idt you will agree with his argument though

I'm a willing convertee, but I'm not going to lie to myself that I'm convinced of a god

Sure, I'll check it out

The problem with the original Summa for me is mainly the old world kind of language

Hard to understand

If someone were to put it in modern terms it would be much easier to get

It's an acquired taste, for sure.

one of the biggest things for me is the old testament prophesies, there were many many prophesies prophesying the arrival of the ultimate homie, jesus christ, and the odds of them all coming true is like a billion in 1 or something

@TastefulH8r

i dont think you'll find the argument convincing tbh. and the entire rest of the book relies on that

but shorter summa is totally in modern language

Okay

hmm i might pick that up for my own reading

its good, like 370 pages

i havent read it all though

Firstly, that does sound appealing and this one page seems to be written in a much more understandable way than much of what I read in the summa

But I fail to understand the analogy of the instrument

yeah he wrote this right before he died

peter kreeft?

?

peter kreeft wrote it before he died?

no aquinas wrote it

oh I see

I thought you were referring to the shorter summa

wife beater undershirt nationalism

yeah i am, that was written by aquinas