the maths doesn't check out either, the forensic evidence in the gas chambers, the numbers don't add up, cremation times etc

it really is ridiculous

well the term gassed is something you use because it's hard to make gassing, forced labour, torture, lethal rape, medical 'experiments', shooting and death by fire fit into one word <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

there were nazi guards punished for shootings

i'm not sure about your other claims they seem exaggerated but none of them happened on a massive scale and none of them happened solely because people were jewish apart from the forced labour

I've heard cases of nazi guards getting punished for shooting or torturing prisoners that their superiors wanted to torture <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

I'm not aware of officers charged for harming prisoners, mainly because only the most sadistic were made part of the concentration part personnel, hand-picked by the ss leadership and Heinrich Himmler <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

force labour was the main method by which labour camps killed their prisoners. The fabled 'Steinbruch' in Buchenwald was famous for both prisoners and SS guards because no prisoner survived the conditions for more than a week <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

well even though you're not aware it happened

you obviously haven't looked at both sides of the story

Starvation was one of the major killers, not just because of starvation itself but because of food wars. Prisoners so malnourished they would die from a single punch killed each other for some dropped potato peels an ss man dropped at Buchenwald <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

yeah and starvation occurred because of the allied blockades, germany was in a crisis

@Ruggwain Didn't you heard? The Nazis actually wanted to protect people from the allies so they put them into camps so they can be better protected. <:thinbing:293119461874204693>

kek

@INNØS your arguments are shit-tier, @Ruggwain might be edgy but at least he's countering me with somewhat plausible points

I'm the edgy one <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

> calls mockery and jokes arguments

the blockades had no effect on Germany's food situation

yeah you are, you've done that emoji the last 6 messages to imply i'm an idiot for questioning these bizarre claims

the y were effective in WW1 because the central powers had little to no territorial gain

the enslaved farms in France alone provided Germany with an immense level of food and resources

all the blockade did was limit their oil supply

not sure if you're being dishonest

which was in fact something that crippled the nazis greatly

but it absolutely did

Both the German Empire and the United Kingdom relied heavily on imports to feed their population and supply their war industry. Imports of foodstuffs and war material of all European belligerents came primarily from the Americas and had to be shipped across the Atlantic Ocean, thus Britain and Germany both aimed to blockade each other. The British had the Royal Navy which was superior in numbers and could operate throughout the British Empire, while the German Kaiserliche Marine surface fleet was mainly restricted to the German Bight, and used commerce raiders and unrestricted submarine warfare to operate elsewhere.

`The German Empire`

is that a world war 1 source again? <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

because see, france isn't noted there <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

take france and their farms are yours

not to mention all of Germany's allies that were more competent at these things than the crippled Austrio-Hungarian Empire and the Ottomans that had trouble keeping their country together in the first place

After the Pashas came to power food wasn't exactly a resource the Ottoman's could give away

yeah Germany lost the French territory at some stage

it is the WW1 source

Germany relied on food imports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Germany_(1939%E2%80%931945)

The Blockade of Germany (1939–1945), also known as the Economic War, was carried out during World War II by the United Kingdom and France in order to restrict the supplies of minerals, metals, food and textiles needed by Nazi Germany - and later Fascist Italy - in order to sustain their war efforts. The economic war consisted mainly of a naval blockade which formed part of the wider Battle of the Atlantic, and included the preclusive buying of war materials from neutral countries to prevent their sale to the enemy.

Both the blockades did not only include oil;

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muh french farms prevented concentration camp prisoners from starving and dying of typhus

lmao