Message from @Roarey

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2018-07-06 18:34:31 UTC  

Hating Jews has nothing to do with the right.

2018-07-06 18:34:37 UTC  

It wasn't a statement of intent or philosophy

2018-07-06 18:34:44 UTC  

People made it one post-publishing

2018-07-06 18:34:51 UTC  

Hmm, actually I don’t know for sure if Marx was the one who called for mass genocide of the Bougewoise

2018-07-06 18:34:56 UTC  

Jesus I can’t spell

2018-07-06 18:34:56 UTC  

@Fitzydog

alt lite = blaming indentity politics for your problems

2018-07-06 18:35:00 UTC  

Correct, it has to do with both the right AND the left. But the Extremes not the Center @Old Judge

2018-07-06 18:35:05 UTC  

@TexasBrony✅

That's Engels my dude

2018-07-06 18:35:08 UTC  

And Stalin

2018-07-06 18:35:10 UTC  

Ah

2018-07-06 18:35:13 UTC  

He said getting rid of them was best but readig the actual book it lines up with its history

2018-07-06 18:35:14 UTC  

"Nazis aren't on the right, because SOCIALISM"
fair enough, but the label stays.

2018-07-06 18:35:14 UTC  

And Trotsky

2018-07-06 18:35:22 UTC  

I rescind my statement that Marx was genocidal

2018-07-06 18:35:25 UTC  

But Marx was more in favor of the system as an ideal

2018-07-06 18:35:28 UTC  

And he never suggested killing them was the way to do it

2018-07-06 18:35:47 UTC  

Even within the communist manifesto it is heavily implied that it's just a philosophy not an actual system

2018-07-06 18:35:50 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki No. Left and right is an economic spectrum. Hating an ethnicity is a whole different dimension.

2018-07-06 18:36:04 UTC  

Incorrect

2018-07-06 18:36:11 UTC  

Yeah reading be manifesto it reads like a rant or idealist waffling of an old man

2018-07-06 18:36:12 UTC  

A dimension of abject stupidity

2018-07-06 18:36:13 UTC  

@Old Judge Wrong, left and right is also decided by social policy

2018-07-06 18:36:28 UTC  

And he's completely self-aware of that towards the end

2018-07-06 18:36:50 UTC  

He was trying to solve a problem that we don’t have anymore.

2018-07-06 18:36:59 UTC  

I can’t hate him for that.

2018-07-06 18:37:01 UTC  

Oh no, Marx was fully aware that groups would have to be culled... mostly inferiors that couldn't learn new ways... Engels was more what Lenin agreed with i.e. interpret Marx for statecraft means killing classes of people inevitable.

2018-07-06 18:37:03 UTC  

That too

2018-07-06 18:37:09 UTC  

@Ruggwain I always found it funny he called for the overthrow of the Bourguasie, but he himself was one. But he wrote an "Out" as "Anyone can be communist, if they declare their support".

2018-07-06 18:37:11 UTC  

@Jabba the fuck m8

2018-07-06 18:37:17 UTC  

Economics can't get much free-er on the compass that the exact middle. Then you keep going right, into the land of social conservativism

2018-07-06 18:37:44 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki yeah he was basically a reasonably wealthy academic living in London of all places away from the actual factories

2018-07-06 18:38:25 UTC  

The UK workers class he 'called for a revolt from' was already in decline by that point.

2018-07-06 18:38:25 UTC  

So at first the argument was that alt right is a broad term. Now you even assigned Spencer's name to me. That was your idea from the beginning.

2018-07-06 18:38:37 UTC  

To hate a race is to treat each member of it as interchangeable with any other. Having a social circle with at least one other person in it of one's own race is proof to the contrary.

2018-07-06 18:38:37 UTC  

It was large in Germany where he was from, but shrinking in the UK

2018-07-06 18:38:48 UTC  

@Old Judge suck more dick please

2018-07-06 18:39:04 UTC  

And it's not even about the Jews. This began with the "unironic Nazis" joke.

2018-07-06 18:39:05 UTC  

Marx wanted power to be given to the industrial working class, this class in the state it was in during his era simply doesn't exist anymore

2018-07-06 18:39:06 UTC  

@Jabba the 'new humans are needed to make communism work' refers to humanity as a whole not some kind of inferior section that needs to be culled

2018-07-06 18:39:10 UTC  

Fucking coward.

2018-07-06 18:39:17 UTC  

The problem was solved, communism simply isn't needed