Message from @Procella Eques
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Absolutely
Till based blegs start using it to describe themselves, eroding away the word's meaning just like that of "American..."
Hopefully not, though.
@Bjorn - MD oh God. What if
*Boomer walking into the room*
"hello, fellow nationalists."
It does seem like that would be the natural, last-ditch globalist gambit. It isn't like they haven't already made an art form out of stripping words and symbols of their original meanings...
"Hi, my name's Ben Shapiro, and I'm an American nationalist."
Oh my God.
Mhmm...
I'm going to choose to be optimistic, though, rather than do the blackpill thing right out of the gate, lol.
Of course haha
I got accused of being a white supremacist on Facebook LOL
If they only knew
@Procella Eques What did you did? Speaks in favor of standards of any kind, in any context?
Chances are they will run with the nationalist label for awhile trying to connect that with Trump's bigoted following.
@CarletonJ We can only hope... 😏
Mentioned NPCs and pointed out the white genocide in South Africa
@Procella Eques used to happen to me all the time. Then I deactivated. People have a harder time calling you random names irl.
@Procella Eques Yeah, that'll do it. Shouldn't be that way, obviously, but it is what it is...
Obviously
I'm still on the fence about the term. I mean , according to the UN's own definition, it does qualify as a genocide, but it doesn't jive with the cattle car-laden images that have been seeded in people's minds by Hollywood.
White dispossession is far easier to defend in an elevator.
It's hard to argue genocide with NPCs. Easier to argue replacement.
Which you can get them to agree and notice - but then they ask "why is that so bad."
And things get tricky
Then you have to target what they care about.
Especially if they're universalistic in their delusions, and, rather than simply applying a double standard just to White people, they actually believe that *no* people has legitimate collective interests or territorial rights.
I would assume they are already egalitarian and even cosmopolitan for sure
I s'pose you could still come in from a disparate impact angle, though, citing the fact that it's only White peoples that are *actually* impacted by these policies.
Sadly, even if you prove that, I've had more people ask why that's such a bad thing (less white people).
I've found you must target what they deeply care about. If they care about the environment/animals its as simple as asking what other race of people have put in place laws and protections for our environment?
Yeah. The insanity knows no end. An important point to remember though, is that, except in cases like the Facebook scenario above, you aren't actually trying to convince the ideologues by arguing with them, but rather, the bystanders.
@FACINEMA has some great physiological debate points as well. You plant a seed in their mind and let it grow.
@Bjorn - MD exactly right. That's important.
Plant the seeds. No one wants to be told what to believe
I really need to work on my debate game. It's definitely not one of my strong points. I feel like we should have regular workshops among our local meetups, kinda like a BASTE Toastmasters.
The literature club and I are going to try and complete a debate club this winter.
Yea and they always bring up the point "well it was their land before Europeans invaded"
But with me buying a house and getting married, it's hard to find the time.