I call benjamin a closer to a social democrat then what ever they are thinking

Sargon is a social liberal

@Nordhand isn't that the Swedish retard party

Stephan lovhen

All of these different categorizations were made for PR reasons to try and distinguish certain policies from what is perceived as wrong, I don't care about the semantics of it

goverment is there to suport you if you fall down but you are free to do what ever you want and earn as much shekels as you want

@Deleted User socdem is an ideology

The Nordic model

Yeah

He supports certain policies that are more in line with socialism than with liberalism. That's not a condemnation, most people do that

yea.

But he needs to own up to it

He does though

Good

He says he supports social programs

And free markets

Imo trying to slap a different brand on it is trying to cover it up

It's not a brand cetronius

It is

It's literally what they are called

Yes, a brand.

Even under socialism

They're called social programs

I'm not talking about social programs, I'm talking about 'social liberal'

Yeah....

Say you are a liberal until it comes to (X, Y)

He still calls himself classical liberal lol

Own up to the fact that you're an authoritarian when it comes to certain aspects of life

It's not (necessarily) wrong

But it is what it is

Be honest about it

good morning everybody

Good morning!

Hi ddog

That makes me wonder

If you are a vegan

And support non smoking laws

And animal rights laws

Under the same logic

Shut the fuck up cetronius

Aren't you a nazi?