Message from @cataphrat1

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2018-07-18 06:22:06 UTC  

BEANS

2018-07-18 06:22:48 UTC  

are classical liberals right wing?

2018-07-18 06:22:56 UTC  

They are now

2018-07-18 06:22:58 UTC  

I tend not to jump to such a conclusion

2018-07-18 06:23:19 UTC  

just because dave rubin says so I don't want to automatically believe it

2018-07-18 06:23:31 UTC  

I, agah-ree...with that

2018-07-18 06:23:32 UTC  

this is mine

2018-07-18 06:23:45 UTC  

a dirty neolib

2018-07-18 06:23:46 UTC  

It's been a while since I took the 8 values test

2018-07-18 06:23:54 UTC  

but I did use spekr

2018-07-18 06:23:57 UTC  

and I got liberal

2018-07-18 06:24:18 UTC  

If you're a 'classical liberal' still after seeing how corrupt republics can get with large populations, and haven't gone 'Libertarian', you're not paying attention.

2018-07-18 06:24:47 UTC  

As if Libertarianism is perfect

2018-07-18 06:25:00 UTC  

It's not about 'perfect'

2018-07-18 06:25:05 UTC  

I keep thinking about how very separate the cultures are from one state or region to another

2018-07-18 06:25:15 UTC  

I am a firm believer in the idea that none of the pure political ideologies are ever going to work

2018-07-18 06:25:16 UTC  

we're more or less

2018-07-18 06:25:19 UTC  

a nation of strangers

2018-07-18 06:25:56 UTC  

That's not how ideologies work

2018-07-18 06:26:12 UTC  

@Mickey D The special thing about America is it's patriotism

2018-07-18 06:26:25 UTC  

You are right in that the states are very different from one another

2018-07-18 06:26:35 UTC  

and without such strong patriotism, the country will not exist

2018-07-18 06:26:45 UTC  

This is the reason why the EU cannot function as a state

2018-07-18 06:26:51 UTC  

yeah. it's that which holds it together doesn't it

2018-07-18 06:27:04 UTC  

the EU has no soul

2018-07-18 06:27:19 UTC  

it's like the antithesis of the US isn't it?

2018-07-18 06:27:36 UTC  

no, just a botched attempt at creating something parallel

2018-07-18 06:27:48 UTC  

They should've strived for a unified European identity first

2018-07-18 06:28:02 UTC  

That's what the EU was

2018-07-18 06:28:03 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-18 06:28:08 UTC  

something the peoples of the countries can be patriotic about

2018-07-18 06:28:10 UTC  

then form a union

2018-07-18 06:28:27 UTC  

right now, it is just a union where people are only interested in for economic reasons

2018-07-18 06:28:28 UTC  

It was forcing the whole continent to become a universal identity. You can't force a nation on a people

2018-07-18 06:28:35 UTC  

I mean the countries in the EU have their own languages and are far more distinct from one another

2018-07-18 06:28:37 UTC  

The raw revolution that made america what it is is very hard to replicate

2018-07-18 06:28:42 UTC  

Fuck, this is the damn logic that got us into this mess

2018-07-18 06:28:43 UTC  

Eu didnt go thru that

2018-07-18 06:28:54 UTC  

Which is why it can never be as patriotic

2018-07-18 06:29:00 UTC  

Imo