Message from @Shurik
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u seem to have big desire to search for this stuff
@Fitzydog okay but i think we can both agree that is also a cultural thing together with islam . Western culture Is superior in many ways when talking about the values how you treat one and the other. I mean even in turkey people treat eachoter like shit while in japan people are much better or nicer
Japan isn't even a western country
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Well everything that has good quality of life has western ideals
@Deleted User Yes, I agree. But I'm saying that Islam is a culture, and there is *NO* separating it from the religion. Either you're a Islamist, or not a Muslim. There's no half-assing it.
@Fitzydog okay so in some sense we can say that islam in itself has lots of problems with others calling themselves muslim
sunni vs shia
That'd be like trying to be a non-practicing scientologist
so whamen that dont wear hijab are not real muslim
some muslims are culturally distinct from others to be fair
even if they say they are.. but isnt that more of an arab thing ..
They all use the same book
theres the shia-sunnia gap but also dozens of other branches that are largely independent
not all
werent the arabs the one enforcing whamen to cover up
islam has more than one holy book
I'd like to see one of these holy books that says "jihad through the sword or deception is bad"
As long as that is still allowed, Islam is right out
What about the bible?? cant the quran be corrected adjust to time
you just need to find reformist sects
that aren't literalists
like most christians
that @Shurik is a difficult question
How do you interpret genocide as 'metaphorical'?
That was the point
Marry, kill, fuck. Go
:^)
well christians pull the mental gymnastics, why not muslims?
I don't know the American left interprets the 2nd Amendment pretty interestingly, but I think most of them are still American... sort of. 😉
socialism isnt bad in every way. police, roads, roof living conditions, hospitals and education are social services
that isn't socialism
lol
@Shujin any they **only** interpret the 2A in such a fashion
not the 1st, 4th or 5th
socialism is the state ownership of the means of production and nationalization of all industry
@radeon sounds like communism i have to look up the definition of socialism again
Yeah, not every little thing the government does is socialism. Socialism is the rejection of any form of capitalism.
you are righty