well christians pull the mental gymnastics, why not muslims?

I don't know the American left interprets the 2nd Amendment pretty interestingly, but I think most of them are still American... sort of. 😉

socialism isnt bad in every way. police, roads, roof living conditions, hospitals and education are social services

that isn't socialism

lol

@Shujin any they **only** interpret the 2A in such a fashion

not the 1st, 4th or 5th

socialism is the state ownership of the means of production and nationalization of all industry

@radeon sounds like communism i have to look up the definition of socialism again

Yeah, not every little thing the government does is socialism. Socialism is the rejection of any form of capitalism.

you are righty

fck

i just gave it to you lol

socialism is communism,

They're the ultimate in crazies. Bernie Sanders for example isn't even really a socialist. He's a "social democrat" though he calls himself a Dem Socialist now which is like he's admitting he's more radical now?

no, communism is slightly different

Communism is supposed to come after socialism, but it's a fantasy that can never be achieved.

communists also wish to abolish the state and all forms of currency

It's the utopia the same as Anarcho capatalism

police, roads, roof living conditions, hospitals and education are social services
but how is this called if it isnt socialism???

@Shurik spot on

It's unachievable

what we tax or we dont tax

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enlighten me please

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im in the middle

me too

everything else is insane idea of the world

of taxes

Taxation is theft.

how is it theft???

you can just decide not to pay

A necessary evil, but still theft.

you will not get service

It depends on if you accept the idea of the social contract or not.

And then go to jail.

Taxation in return for services is not theft

you dont go to jail for not paying taxes if you try to evade them maybe.