Message from @Roarey

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2018-09-18 23:24:37 UTC  

I'm hardly a proper fascist

2018-09-18 23:24:41 UTC  

More of an authoritarian tbh

2018-09-18 23:24:50 UTC  

I will call D'Annunzio and tell him to go commit suicide

2018-09-18 23:25:04 UTC  

I mean is anyone here under the impression that fascism isnt a failed ideology that will never possess serious power ever again?

2018-09-18 23:25:16 UTC  

Give up @A Random Crusader we got owned

2018-09-18 23:25:24 UTC  

What is the point in humoring them?

2018-09-18 23:25:36 UTC  

The most important thing, in my view, of any system is its underlying principles, the foundations of it. Getting lost in details is a smokescreen that has been employed for decades in universities to make socialism and postmodernism appear sensible by way of making it complicated. The details, numbers of cited authors, reams of rhetoric matter not a jot if the principles underlying an ideology are bad ones. Liberty succeeds, tyranny does not. Even without applying reasoning like an academic, history attests to the truth of it. No need to make it complicated unless it is ones goal to hide their own corruption.

2018-09-18 23:25:51 UTC  

Fascism will not rise again as it did in Germany, Spain, or Italy if modern trends continue

2018-09-18 23:26:08 UTC  

I can sympathize with the ideals but I doubt it will actually manifest

2018-09-18 23:26:28 UTC  

Holy shit the EU is actually conceding on Brexit

2018-09-18 23:26:35 UTC  

It won't rise anywhere ever because we have been collectively immunized to it because it's already been shown to fail, much like communism, monarchism, anarcy etc

2018-09-18 23:26:35 UTC  

Hell has frozen over lads

2018-09-18 23:26:36 UTC  

About damn time

2018-09-18 23:26:42 UTC  

link please @Kyoraki

2018-09-18 23:26:43 UTC  

It's just despotism with extra steps

2018-09-18 23:27:13 UTC  

You just generalized all of humanity as a collective with a single political viewpoint

2018-09-18 23:27:21 UTC  

Identity-based ideologies are cancer

2018-09-18 23:27:54 UTC  

No, I'm saying you can't in the modern age defend fascism as a practical system of government

2018-09-18 23:28:08 UTC  

Not without a gold medal in mental gymnastics

2018-09-18 23:28:59 UTC  

I'm honestly hoping my country just pulls a no deal Brexit at this point. For me the EU has insulted my country enough, it ought to be told to fuck off and stew in its own hubris.

2018-09-18 23:29:00 UTC  

And yet ideologies like communism and anarchism still prevail

2018-09-18 23:29:10 UTC  

But with little or no power @A Random Crusader

2018-09-18 23:29:22 UTC  

Just because something has failed does not mean people shall not sympathize

2018-09-18 23:29:31 UTC  

We are in a comparatively stable era

2018-09-18 23:29:43 UTC  

No but we know *why* it failed and we can avoid it

2018-09-18 23:29:59 UTC  

There can be no revolution without a reason to rebel

2018-09-18 23:30:19 UTC  

Once major problems arise people will start pointing fingers

2018-09-18 23:30:23 UTC  

Yea but when and if a revolution comes I can assure you it won't be fascists

2018-09-18 23:30:45 UTC  

The communists will blame the capitalists, the fascists will blame the jews, and the anarchists will blame the government

2018-09-18 23:30:51 UTC  

Fascism is despotism with a bureaucracy

2018-09-18 23:30:54 UTC  

The border proposal is a major win for us though. The EU being willing to do customs checks away from the border means we can tell the soft Brexit crowd to completely fuck off

2018-09-18 23:31:19 UTC  

Especially not in the west, we have tasted liberty and we will never give it back up, unless the authoritarian left isn't stopped soon

2018-09-18 23:31:47 UTC  

That's not to say we still won't give it up

2018-09-18 23:31:53 UTC  

Fascism combines the worst elements from capitalism and socialism

2018-09-18 23:32:02 UTC  

It's openly pro-corruption

2018-09-18 23:32:36 UTC  

The real tipping point with gaining sympathy for failed ideologies is when adherents can successfully bury, obscure or euphemise what that failure actually represents. Which in the case of fascism and communism is millions of dead people. There is sympathy for bad ideologies as long as you can detach them from their consequences. That's why fascism is fucked but communism still has breathing room. Academics lie about communist brutality.

2018-09-18 23:33:11 UTC  

@Roarey See also: Making holocaust denial illegal. It made things worse

2018-09-18 23:33:28 UTC  

Yes which is why so long as we have free access to non-biased information fascism will never rise again

2018-09-18 23:33:55 UTC  

Making ideas illegal in general must be avoided @Fitzydog

2018-09-18 23:34:05 UTC  

Well, yeah.