Of course it did, Im not saying it didnt

@Fitzydog by played a part do you mean actively impeded?

My argument isn't that religion has nothing to do with morality it's that it isn't the source of morality.

I guess the Enlightenment would have happened sooner had it not been for that pesky Holy Roman Empire

Homophobia exists almost exclusively because of religion how can you claim religion helped moral progress with a straight face?

Religion would not be the source of the objective morality, that would be god

@radeon Source? Or are you just making generalized claims to support your argument that Religions causes homophobia?

What makes homophobia wrong?

@Fitzydog can you give me a secular argument for executing homosexuals?

Anyway, it's past 3am here and I'm tired, gonna have to bow out. I'm a furfag anyway so I'm wrong by default, haha

What made you a furry?

Or burning witches, or hanging adulterers, etc etc

@radeon I can't even give a religious argument for executing anyone

@Fitzydog I can, *Deus Vult*

Every power system gets used by assholes to legitimize their shit

Lol I mean do you come from an alternate reality where the church didn't only just recently in the last few hundred years stop killing homosexuals?

The Crusades were the correct and moral action

Change my mind (protip you are wrong)

@Fitzydog the danger here is that religions use their authority of claiming to speak for god to justify all manner of immoral vile shit

@radeon You're not wrong

@radeon and what about the nazis?

@Deleted User hahaha I'm not going there, can't be fucked with another lecture about being attention seeking, giving out info nobody wants and I'm a degenerate. Got plenty of that highly intelligent and reasonable bullshit earlier, fankoo verimooch.

@WesBerry97 what about them?

I was honestly curious

they justified all sorts of shit, and I don't think they're all that religious

I know and I'm not in the mood.

And i hope you can find some sort of order to your life

I didn't say religions are exclusive in their mass murder and widespead oppression

The Nazis used religion to their advantage nevertheless

yes, but you make it seem like religions are exclusive in their authority on moral issues

But secular humanist societies are 😉

That's not what I was implying

The great leap forward....

*of course* nonreligious groups do immoral things, point being?

"but they do it too!" argument

Doesn't justify *your* bullshit

the point is that why target religions and exclude all other groups

which is what you've been doing the entire time I've been here

Man is inherently flawed and no amount of socialization is going to change that

Ffs. I don't know what made me a furry. Born wrong? All I know is I was a little kid watching cartoons and when I saw Tails in AoStH I was besotted. I've liked toony anthro characters since. Certainly wasn't a decision I made or anything, haha.

@radeon So why pick on religious groups?