Message from @✿ Mittens ✿

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2018-09-22 13:26:15 UTC  

free public education > welfare

2018-09-22 13:27:22 UTC  

Libertarian socialism hahahahahaha

2018-09-22 13:27:38 UTC  

f i x i t t h e n

2018-09-22 13:27:39 UTC  

Neighborhood level school houses

2018-09-22 13:27:50 UTC  

also whatmst the fuck is libertarian socialism

2018-09-22 13:28:01 UTC  

That' almost as bad as anarcho-fachist.

2018-09-22 13:28:25 UTC  

Libertarian Socialism is being too much of a pussy to admit out loud that you're a socialist.

2018-09-22 13:28:33 UTC  

I find it funny when people are against free public education even in capitalist countries. Because when they're not they're saying that trickle down economics is where they want their money to go. They're saying that they think the tax dollars should be spent on war, and tax cuts for the rich. There's a reason why people pay taxes, and it's so that the money can be put into programs which support the people living in society. When that money is squandered, that's a poor use of resources. Btw, did you know that it would save trillions of dollars to switch to a medicare for all system, because right now we pay for profit insurance companies with our tax funded welfare programs? Did you also know that the tax cuts Trump made for the wealth would have actually covered wiping out college debt, or tuition free college, and many other things?

2018-09-22 13:29:28 UTC  

@✿ Mittens ✿ Defense spending is a necessary function of a state

2018-09-22 13:29:40 UTC  

Well not spending per se

2018-09-22 13:29:47 UTC  

But defense in general

2018-09-22 13:30:12 UTC  

Hmmm lets name successful socialist and communist countries shall we?

2018-09-22 13:31:04 UTC  

Minarchism is chad ideology. All others are shit. Free market good, state evil but has necessary functions because we don't live in a wholesome fucking utopia and we never will.

2018-09-22 13:31:17 UTC  

Damn

2018-09-22 13:31:19 UTC  

So many

2018-09-22 13:31:25 UTC  

@Fredrickbismark All volunteer border patrol

2018-09-22 13:32:38 UTC  

Weekend warrior border control

2018-09-22 13:32:43 UTC  

People dont pay taxes for social programs. They pay them for government required programs. Defense, police, judges, ect.

2018-09-22 13:33:05 UTC  

Leave social programs for society

2018-09-22 13:33:29 UTC  

Trickle down economics is what has caused all these crashes. After Reagan left office we started seeing economic crashes for the first time since the new deal. When there was low wealth inequality and strong labor unions, there was a strong economy because the middle class was thriving, and people were able to buy back the products that capitalists produced. This prevented economic crashes. When businesses began deregulating and the amount that the people on the top were making skyrocketed, and the wages for the middle class stagnated, we started to see crashes. That is not even to mention the fact that capitalism is unsustainable, and is destroying the environment, which I mentioned up above. 80% of forests are gone, we're in the 6th mass extinction of animals on earth, there's a thing called the runaway greenhouse effect which is what happened to venus, and there's almost more plastic in the ocean than fish.

What we need to do is switch to a non growth based economy, and that is something that could only happen if we had democracy in the work place, aka get rid of stockholders. One of the biggest reasons why capitalism needs to expand is because when people invest in a company they expect to see their profits grow, they want to see a return on their investment. Also, larger industries often need to grow so that they can push down prices with competition, and drive other companies out of business - if a company doesn't grow in capitalism, they're often doomed to be driven out by someone bigger than them. No one embraces this model of capitalism more than Jeff Bezos, who says explicitly that the bigger company will consume the smaller one. We need to switch to a non-growth based green economy if we have any hope of saving the planet from capitalism. We also need to end not only greenhouse gas emissions caused by fossil fuels, but meat consumption, which it turns out is just as big of a polluter as fossil fuels.

2018-09-22 13:34:12 UTC  

Workers building the world they live in so that people on the top can live in luxury, the people on the top are the leeches.

2018-09-22 13:34:18 UTC  

Solidarity forever.

2018-09-22 13:34:29 UTC  

People used to belong to these great organizations that would insure against poverty, help with child care, provide education and more!

They called them 'churches'

2018-09-22 13:34:32 UTC  

You realize the middle class stagnated due to taxation, jobs becoming scarce due to regulation ect.

2018-09-22 13:34:59 UTC  

And actuall atm there is a growth in the middle class

2018-09-22 13:35:26 UTC  

I actually exploit my capitalist employer, not the other way around

2018-09-22 13:35:52 UTC  

I have said all that needs to be said. If you wish to engage with me, read my previous posts. Solidarity forever ✊

2018-09-22 13:35:55 UTC  

Or are you of the position 'employment numbers are so high cuz people taking 2 jobs'

2018-09-22 13:36:05 UTC  

Lmao

2018-09-22 13:36:09 UTC  

Finally

2018-09-22 13:36:16 UTC  

You can find solidarity with THIS DICK

2018-09-22 13:36:21 UTC  

The sperg of idiocracy is over

2018-09-22 13:37:02 UTC  

Shhh they didnt exist. Remember communism is good

2018-09-22 13:37:12 UTC  

Killing communists is never a bad idea. Therefore gulags good.

2018-09-22 13:37:29 UTC  

DAE think they can control society to bend to their expectations?

2018-09-22 13:37:48 UTC  

People always believe that

2018-09-22 13:38:04 UTC  

Until they wake up

2018-09-22 13:38:19 UTC  

Mittens IRL

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/493053432999968770/Dns3xswW0AA26ML.png

2018-09-22 13:38:39 UTC  

Well he said the people on top are the leeches ... well thats the way it is and was in every society. It doesn't matter what you try, in the end someone will always find a way to put himself in a position at the top and try to leech of the stuff everybody else build for society.

2018-09-22 13:38:58 UTC  

My pronouns are they btw 😉