What a fucking lunacy.

`Tariffs make foreign goods more expenny tho`
that's kind of the point, to encourage local industry

Many local industries rely on foreign imports

Like Apple?

yeah so you want to tariff imported finished products, not raw materials

Seems pretty inefficient

Yes, which is why they ship them with two pieces needing to be inserted into it.

This is an old issue.

It says it can't be assambled.

So they give you an Ikea wrench and two extra pieces to screw in.

If I wanna pay more for my goods in order to support local industry, shouldn't that be my choice

Not forced by the state?

They have been getting around import restrictions and tariffs for decades like that.

It's a huge farce.

Look into Chinese bicycles in Europe.

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They ship the pieces in a box so they can say it's not a bike.

>if i want to have a fire department shouldn't it be my choice, not forced by the state

no

@Tero don't compare firefighting with importing goods.

being on fire != not having a TV

What are you talking about?

I might as well be on fire if I don't have a damn TV.

Are you crazy?

No way I am going to miss Eastenders.

@Wizord no there are actually people who think the government shouldn't make you pay for a fire department

for the same reason

"my choice"

Kids ...

If you can't get along we'll put you in the get-along shirt again.

the arguments for public fire fighting are quite different from the arguments for protection of local industry

`the arguments for public fire fighting are quite different from the arguments for protection of local industry`
right but the argument against in this case is identical, which is "my choice"

the neutral position is the state not doing either

you need to build arguments to justify the state doing something

The problem is that principles like that are quick lost in a tangled web.

Once you put the state in charge of one thing, you must also give it compensatory power.

We want one but not the other.

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"I choose to have my home on fire and my neighbor's home on fire"
"I choose to buy a TV from a foreign company"

We want to be protected and cared for, but we don't want a protector with the power to also become abusive.

I hear people agreeing with libertarian principles all day long. It's easy to get them to agree to the premises.

Watch the rubber meet the road, though, and libertarian principles give way the moment people want something from someone else.