Instant even

Heh

@Jym how isn’t it?

Battery manufacturing is one of the top ground pollutants

Yes

Working on that

@Antiboom Don't you end up oversteering a lot?

Wait

For a tenth of that

Are you saying I can for 5 grand

Do a 2.2 second 0-60

Holy hell that's fast

Supply chain and energy budget. The energy expenditure to make a high end electric motor outweighs the miniscule reduction from it's use.

You should be counter-steering most of the time anyway tbqh.

@banestrum it has pretty good traction control, and I’m used to oversteering because I drive an 8.1 liter v8 suburban like a maniac

Super moto steering intemsifies

@Antiboom Well anything must be better than needing an entire two full rotations of the wheel to reach full turn in my pickup

@Jym oh sure, but long run if you use solar it helps

Solar is worse than batteries

@banestrum I think it’s like 1 1/2 for the suburban

@Banana_soda long run?

Solar is kind of shit if you already have paid the infrastructure cost of a grid. It makes a lot of sense in Africa or parts of Asia where they haven't already paid the upfront cost of a grid.

The only viable power source is nuclear

@Jym eh, on individual houses it’s decent afaik

With a grid and modern reactors nuclear is decent.

As an individual persons choice, that is

Yeah, I like nuclear

Solar and wind power fuck up grid efficiency

@Jym you’re gonna have to give me a tldr sometime of how to get silly performance for cheap from a motorcycle because I was looking into getting one anyways, but don’t have a ton of money rn

@Antiboom There's not that much incentive with the way they sell it in my area, they offer to lease the equipment to you for no up front cost but you only get the full income from the panels after the lease is paid off via the electricity.

It's like a 30 year contract, screw that

@Antiboom

TL;DR a whole lot of time tuning and making mistakes as you optimize your ride.

I don’t mean for income, I mean for environmentalism

California gives a lot of incentive

@Jym right, guess I’ll look into it

If it's environmentalism then the best tech is already in use. It's not solar or nuclear though it's fracking.....

If you're an environmentalist and you live like every other American then you're hypocritical

America has met the Kyoto targets and is on track to meet Paris even though we never signedon to either.

There’s environmentalism and then there’s having enough money to reduce your environmental impact without sacrificing quality of life

@Jym how’s fracking environmentally friendly?

Or rather, what is it?