Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2019-04-17 04:31:54 UTC  

something the founders acknowledged by explicitly protecting the right to the same in literally the first amendment

2019-04-17 04:32:07 UTC  

Well you see

2019-04-17 04:32:23 UTC  

Fascism is just what the people who I don't like follow

2019-04-17 04:32:52 UTC  

So when the people I don't like argue for free speech, obviously that means I must remove it because it's something the people I don't like like

2019-04-17 04:33:45 UTC  

And to do this I must build up extreme state power over the individual

2019-04-17 04:34:01 UTC  

It's not fascism because I'm the one doing it and I'm a good person

2019-04-17 04:36:00 UTC  

they are just scared that they have zero ability to form counter arguments

2019-04-17 04:36:47 UTC  

@nolsen that is probably how i would turn it around on them; censorship of political speech is a shield used only by those unable to defend their ideas

2019-04-17 04:45:59 UTC  

AP party has a white chick with problem glasses!

2019-04-17 04:46:01 UTC  

im dying

2019-04-17 04:46:02 UTC  

@nolsen plus, fascism is unironically less worse than communism so there's that, too

2019-04-17 04:46:27 UTC  

I'd argue that in fascists nations, you cannot use free speech

2019-04-17 04:46:29 UTC  

you would get arrested

2019-04-17 04:46:32 UTC  

or sent to the FUCKING HOLOCAUST

2019-04-17 04:46:53 UTC  

that's actually true of most kinds of governments

2019-04-17 04:47:06 UTC  

So their "free speech" to call other fascists

2019-04-17 04:47:10 UTC  

permitting free speech is a rarity if you look at all the countries ever

2019-04-17 04:47:10 UTC  

would not be allowed

2019-04-17 04:49:13 UTC  

free speech is a traditionally liberal value

2019-04-17 04:49:22 UTC  

pretty much no other country on any other ideological basis has ever permitted free speech

2019-04-17 04:49:28 UTC  

unless it was a benevolent monarch or something

2019-04-17 04:50:54 UTC  

fascism isn't worse than communism

2019-04-17 04:50:58 UTC  

they're the same

2019-04-17 04:51:18 UTC  

fascism is like "Eat food, but work all day without breaks."

2019-04-17 04:51:27 UTC  

communism be like "Don't eat food, eat tank instead."

2019-04-17 04:51:45 UTC  

fascism: "Why aren't you working? Are you a degenerate? Do you not care about the nation?"

2019-04-17 04:52:06 UTC  

communism: "You should be working, but only when govt is watching."

2019-04-17 04:52:27 UTC  

communism: lol I already starved

2019-04-17 04:52:45 UTC  

fascism: "Oh god, I was drafted to fight in a war I didn't want to be in."

2019-04-17 04:52:55 UTC  

"But at least the food is okay."

2019-04-17 04:53:24 UTC  

fighting in wars wasn't super uncommon before nukes made conventional warfare suicidal

2019-04-17 04:53:58 UTC  

yeah, but fascists tend to advocate aggressive foreign policy to put it lightly

2019-04-17 04:54:14 UTC  

the nazis were probably the most principled fascists

2019-04-17 04:54:28 UTC  

because they really adhered to the social darwinism

2019-04-17 04:54:36 UTC  

just declare war on everyone basically

2019-04-17 04:54:36 UTC  

lol

2019-04-17 04:55:07 UTC  

annex everything, war is human nature, so be the first to declare it, REEE

2019-04-17 04:55:38 UTC  

also, fascism tends to pursue total war, which is something wholly different from most wars throughout history

2019-04-17 04:55:43 UTC  

unless it's the mongols

2019-04-17 04:55:58 UTC  

because mongols killed everyone anyway