Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2019-08-24 19:35:11 UTC  

"Spaces on the board include a snarkily named hospital and school, because apparently schools are supposed to produce losers and hospitals are only supposed to help some of the people. 5/"

2019-08-24 19:36:48 UTC  

Yes, because if everyone passes school, then it invites corruption and graft. The amount of enforcement needed to ensure that everyone passes really incentivizes a lowering of standards, because there's no way you could pass everyone with usual curricula term limits.

2019-08-24 19:36:57 UTC  

and that's just the tip of the iceberg for top down planning of schools

2019-08-24 19:37:37 UTC  

if you funnel in more money, it's only going to get siphoned away by the corrupt, because who's going to watch where all of it goes? more money just means more to watch, so you gotta hire more watchers, and then how do you keep them all accountable? It's a farce.

2019-08-24 19:38:46 UTC  

I don't need to go into healthcare. Attempts to extrapolate healthcare to all other systems is something socialists do a lot of.

2019-08-24 19:39:11 UTC  

also, healthcare is more nuanced than 'should govt pay for it all?' or 'privatize everything ever'

2019-08-24 19:39:17 UTC  

but that hurts partisan feelings, so

2019-08-24 19:39:55 UTC  

"There are also tons of references to health food and veganism, despite the lack of any clear connection to socialism, apparently because what they share in common is that they are odious things that are fun to mock. 6/"

2019-08-24 19:40:06 UTC  

Damn liberals are triggered and review bombing the game on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Hasbro-Monopoly-Socialism-Board-Parody/dp/B07VPRNZJB/

2019-08-24 19:40:16 UTC  

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2019-08-24 19:40:30 UTC  

Fucking hell the games not available on target anymore

2019-08-24 19:41:05 UTC  

It's no coincidence, those go together because partisan behavior of the population puts them together. Health food and veganism are lefty and so is socialism! If they weren't, they'd make a minimal effort to divorce themselves from one another, but instead, they vote for the same party. The only way to defeat partisanship is internally.

2019-08-24 19:41:16 UTC  

Don't complain about your perceived enemy mocking you for being retarded, just saying.

2019-08-24 19:41:50 UTC  

"It's also crucial to mock environmentalism because, haha, as we all know environmentalism is stupid and hilarious. 7/"

2019-08-24 19:42:07 UTC  

It is. It actively harms the environment more by preventing sensible innovation from going forward, such as nuclear power.

2019-08-24 19:42:26 UTC  

"It goes without saying that this game is entirely uninterested in trying to understand what socialism actually is and how it might function. 8/"

2019-08-24 19:42:39 UTC  

Oh, because if you don't agree with socialism, then you clearly don't fully understand it. *tips fedora*

2019-08-24 19:45:39 UTC  

For example, there is a community fund, and if a player doesn't have enough money to pay for something, the community fund automatically pays the difference. Which seems kinda socialist at first glance. 9/
But the community fund is gleefully and deliberately designed to be constantly running out of money. At this point, the only way to fill it back up and keep the game going is for players to donate money to it voluntarily. 10/

Because that's actually how money works. You put money in, and then you take it out. Where does money come from? Do you really think a board game can fully emulate the effects of inflation from expanding money supply when the money is simply printed? They'd have to abandon physical money, the marker of all versions of monopoly (that I'm aware of), and move to pen and paper or digital software, which would defeat the playability of the game. Personally, I think board games that necessitate software defeat the spirit of board games.

2019-08-24 19:45:54 UTC  

and even software would have trouble emulating inflation

2019-08-24 19:46:06 UTC  

becaues then it would probably have to emulate deflation as well... hard to keep track of

2019-08-24 19:46:14 UTC  

and why socialism pervades, I suppose

2019-08-24 19:46:29 UTC  

"So this is not really a socialist model. It's more of a billionaire philanthropy model.

It's akin to conservatives constantly saying, "If Warren Buffett likes taxes so much, why doesn't he just donate to the IRS?" 11/"

2019-08-24 19:46:50 UTC  

Yes, because property values would go up and up if you could just create money from thin air.

2019-08-24 19:47:39 UTC  

if you don't tax, then money loses it's value. Govt has to be a part of the money system, or money loses its value. This is why money has existed since ancient times. You. Dumb. Ass.

2019-08-24 19:48:08 UTC  

"And then confusedly, when it's time to pay taxes, the taxes do not go into the community fund, but rather are paid *from* the community fund to a private bank! 12/"

2019-08-24 19:48:22 UTC  

Well, you need a central institution to make sure everyone is virtuous, comrade.

2019-08-24 19:48:31 UTC  

Damn target pulles the game because liberal morons whined

2019-08-24 19:48:40 UTC  

"Similarly, when you pass go, you get a $50 "living wage," which was presumably reduced from the usual $200 to emphasize that "socialism makes everyone poorer" or somesuch. 13/"

2019-08-24 19:49:47 UTC  

Talk about reading into it. They could've picked any number really. (sarcasm incoming) Oh nvm, you cracked the code. You read into the deep lore of socialist monopoly, my dude. They're saying that socialism makes you poorer, without any backing arguments. It's not like this is a game meant to be light humor.

2019-08-24 19:50:26 UTC  

"But then when the minimum wage is increased, this wage doesn't actually increase, but instead, once again for no reason the community fund pays money to a private bank. 14/"

2019-08-24 19:50:36 UTC  

when a board games get socialism better then the socialists <:kek:590371888480387073>

2019-08-24 19:50:51 UTC  

So, you're assuming the one going around competing to buy property across the board is a proletariat?

2019-08-24 19:51:02 UTC  

aren't there millions of other proles?

2019-08-24 19:53:27 UTC  

Where the hell does the money for minimum wage come from? Why would players be collecting minimum wage, if they're the sole donators to the community fund?

2019-08-24 19:53:46 UTC  

all the game needed to do was say "the community fund pays the minimum wagE"

2019-08-24 19:53:56 UTC  

but it left that out, so you didn't read between the lines

2019-08-24 19:54:05 UTC  

so you're out of the loop, basically

2019-08-24 19:54:23 UTC  

like you don't know what colour the sky is unless you look up to remind yourself

2019-08-24 19:54:30 UTC  

that's literally the levels of discordia we're in

2019-08-24 19:55:33 UTC  

"Likewise, because "socialism" allegedly hates people doing well, a card lets you confiscate wealth from someone with some sort of vote. But then, rather than actually redistributing that wealth to those less well off, the wealth is simply destroyed and removed from the game. 15/"

2019-08-24 19:55:45 UTC  

if you give people the ability to redistribute wealth, they will do so democratically