This shit can get reeally complicated sometimes - if you decide to join a war, are the soldiers and civilians who die your fault?
Is it only the people deliberately killed?
Or even unintended casualties
@JayJS I'm pretty sure Mao and Stalin's counts are mostly prisoners and their own people lololo
I would argue Stalin and Mao would be in the millions if only actual intended deaths were counted
most was undesirables and it was easy to get on that list
The vast majority of that death toll is a result of shitty management and economic restructuralization
Holodomor is not any worse than the Bengal famine imo
Both were a result of mismanagement and were not addressed well enough
didn't Stalin's sister commit suicide when she found out about ukrainian starvations?
No, Holodomor is forced purposeful genocide
No it wasnt
yeah she killed herself, because she knew Stalin was allowing it
It was an economic restructuralization program
A total push for industrialization
Stalin purlosely starved them
JayJS you should join antifa if you try to justify the holodomor
Stalin would be happy if they have survived
He wanted workers in factories
Ukraine was an agricultural third world shithole
If the Holodomor was an accident then the Holocaust was an accident too
well soldiers shooting farmers for eating the food they was growing so not to starve to death was a pure accident.... sure
Oof
Holocaust was deliberately genocidal
No, it was an accident
Juat like your tying to sayong Holodomor was
You haven't read Hitler's opinions on jews?
Holodomor was an act of callousness for the purpose of economic progress
So was the Great Leap Forward
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If the industrialization of the Soviet Union could be achieved without starvation, Stalin would have taken that option without question
You didnt hear of stalins plan for Kulaks?
Submit or we will force you to submit
https://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789 https://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
That was the plan for Kulaks
Kulak starve or be killed
Or go to factory
kulak label shifted as Stalin and the upper party saw fit, just so yknow
Pol Pot was openly genocidal though, if you want an example of a truly murderous commie
