Message from @Finno

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2019-04-06 15:56:23 UTC  

A very moderate fella, you know.

2019-04-06 15:57:24 UTC  

He's from lapland area of voting so no wonder I've never seen/heard of him

2019-04-06 15:57:44 UTC  

Also, he has no studies at all. His only work experience is in the border patrol.

2019-04-06 15:58:22 UTC  

Also he doesn't seem to have been in any high places, Im kind supriced you've even heard of the guy

2019-04-06 15:58:26 UTC  

He has been paid a ton of money to act as "international support" for Cataluña's independence. He has spent entire weeks over here.

2019-04-06 15:58:51 UTC  

"Mikko Karna Cataluña" or "Mikko Karna independence" and you'll find dozens of articles and videos.

2019-04-06 15:59:59 UTC  

I'd fucking hate Suomis if it wasn't for the fact that the Finnish parliament has actually contradicted Mikko several times.

2019-04-06 16:00:02 UTC  

Lol he even got into parliament cause Paavo Väyrynen decided to continue in european parliament and when väyrynen came back he had to leave the parliament

2019-04-06 16:01:54 UTC  

(translation from finnish wikipedia of this guy) "Kärnä is currently unemplyed. He has planned to write a book about his time in parliament and having holidays"
usually politicians are politicians to only spring to some nice job after their ruling time is over but this didn't even manage that

2019-04-06 16:02:24 UTC  

He's a barely-functional retard with no studies at all.

2019-04-06 16:02:52 UTC  

Also, he has actively worked to split a country, probably causing a civil war.

2019-04-06 16:03:50 UTC  

well he did graduate from Oulu Lyseo but he certainly doesn't have anything to do with catalonia and is not really famous politician in finnish ears like väyrynen, soini, kike, halla-aho and Orpo are

2019-04-06 16:04:32 UTC  

no really reason to be even salty about this dude, total nobody what comes to politics

2019-04-06 16:04:57 UTC  

Cataluña's actual international support for the independence:
· 🇮🇹 Salvini's party = at first, they've remained silent for over a year.
· 🇮🇪 The IRA
· 🇧🇪 Some party from Flanders that wants to split Belgium into 2 parts
· 🇫🇮 Mikko Karna
· 🇮🇷

2019-04-06 16:05:41 UTC  

The Iranian government is actively working with several fuckers to destroy Spain.

2019-04-06 16:05:57 UTC  

what about the (((Swizz)))

2019-04-06 16:05:58 UTC  

?

2019-04-06 16:06:07 UTC  

on who's side they are?

2019-04-06 16:06:28 UTC  

I don't know that name. 🇨🇭 supports Spain's unity.

2019-04-06 16:07:04 UTC  

🇮🇷 works with an alt-left party (the one that has worked for Maduro/Chávez) by giving them money and a TV channel and also gives money to the Catalan pro-independence movement.

2019-04-06 16:07:10 UTC  

I meant the ((((())))) so..."swizz"...the long nose tribe you know

2019-04-06 16:08:27 UTC  

But yeah Mikko doesn't really represent even centrist party which is far from what it used to be.

2019-04-06 16:08:42 UTC  

Jaume Roures (originally Jaime Robles, he changed his name to sound more Catalan) is a media mogul. He runs MediaPro, the company that owns the rights to the Spanish Soccer League, and produces a ton of TV shows and movies.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392478767274262529/564119301154537473/bbb0.jpg

2019-04-06 16:09:25 UTC  

Meanwhile, the opposition to the Iranian government is actually giving money to VOX, Spain's true-right/alt-right party that is gonna enter congress big time in the next elections (April 28th).

2019-04-06 16:10:04 UTC  

I quite liked the old time centrist party when it was known as agrarian union, it was actually for rural people, was still refering to Alkio (finnish politicians and political philosopher around early 1900s) sometimes and was socially and fiscally conservative.

2019-04-06 16:10:45 UTC  

Here in Spain we've never had a rural party, we just have a seat distribution that makes barely-populated areas very interesting. This way ALL parties must show interest.

2019-04-06 16:12:00 UTC  

Like now the leader of centrist party is accusing finnish party leader about beeing against imigration and thus racist and said that he could provide living to imigrants in his house.

2019-04-06 16:12:03 UTC  

Podemos (the Iranian-backed and Venezuelan-backed alt-left party I've mentioned) is fucking retarded because they only show interest in urban areas. They rarely campaign in low-density areas.

2019-04-06 16:12:15 UTC  

these are old adds from the time it was known as rural union

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392478767274262529/564120195732602900/serveimage.png

2019-04-06 16:12:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392478767274262529/564120230989922314/serveimage.png

2019-04-06 16:12:47 UTC  

2nd image - Left = That looks like some commie shit.

2019-04-06 16:17:54 UTC  

first one says "palanced house, peaceful society"
second picture left says "Enough is enough and the paper says "false promisses, price risings, forced democracy"
middle one says "Do you submit to be testrabit of socialism? if you dont vote bourgeois (finnish word for it doesnt have as negative hints as in english equilevant)"
this add I dont even think is rural union, Idk why is in there
left one says "danger ahead, rural union saves" and flashes say "communism, socialism"

2019-04-06 16:18:59 UTC  

tbh you can see some fascist and commie influences on these old rural party adverts
this one simply says "free finlad must be secured, vote rural union"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392478767274262529/564121890793193556/serveimage.png

2019-04-06 16:21:59 UTC  

koekaniini = guinea pig (literal translation "test rabbit")

2019-04-06 16:24:24 UTC  

theyre been always centrist what comes to economics tho "free peoples straight line"
left sign: dictatorship of socialism and communism
right sign: chains of big businesses

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392478767274262529/564123219905478666/serveimage.png

2019-04-06 16:24:35 UTC  

so tldr:they we're quite based but aren't anymore

2019-04-06 16:25:34 UTC  

Worth-noting nationwide parties of Spain (left to right)

· Podemos (We can) = The alt-left. A lot of top players have studied Political Science. They're economically backed by 🇮🇷 and 🇻🇪, 2 dictatorships. People still vote them somehow. They think Catalan independence must be voted.

· PSOE (Socialist Worker's party) = The left or center-left depending on which top player you listen to. They've had few corruption cases but the total cost is at over 3000 million so far. Some top players think Catalan independence must be voted.

· Ciudadanos (Citizens) = The center... depending on the day, they regularly change opinions even on key topics. People dislike their ever-changing opinions and how they've worked with and against both PSOE and PP. At least they're consistent when it comes to hating Podemos.

· PP (People's party) = The center-right by Spanish standards, they'd be looked as commies in the USA. They've had dozens of corruption cases yet the total cost is right under 1500 miilion so far. It was founded by one of Francisco Franco's top men. They want parents to be able to choose whether to have Spanish or the regional language as the main language in Cataluña, Valencia, Balearic Islands and Euskadi but do not want that in Galicia for some odd reason.

· VOX (the Latin word for "voice") = The true-right/alt-right. Founded by a former PP member that didn't like how left-leaning PP had become. They've been backed by the OPPOSITION to 🇮🇷. They want to eliminate Cataluña's status as an autonomy, they want all laws to be nationwide, they want education programs to be as uniform as possible too.

2019-04-06 16:26:53 UTC  

FUN FACT = Podemos' 1-2 are husband and wife. Pablo Iglesias kicked out his former best friend Íñigo Errejón out so that his wife Irene Montero would become #2.

2019-04-06 16:29:57 UTC  

I'm quite happy for the rise of VOX as they seem to be the 1st Spanish party in congress to actively want to decrease the size of the government, which is literally the biggest business in Spain by a long shot.

2019-04-06 16:30:07 UTC  

tbh I dont really agree on Alkio's ideas on correct ruling system and the teetotalism that he had, but his opinion on actual agrarianism are in my opinion quite good and his view that largely ural parties don't attention to the causes that were most improtant to farmers.

2019-04-06 16:30:39 UTC  

VOX seems to be Spain's based ones, at least for now.