Message from @Finno
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A very moderate fella, you know.
He's from lapland area of voting so no wonder I've never seen/heard of him
Also, he has no studies at all. His only work experience is in the border patrol.
Also he doesn't seem to have been in any high places, Im kind supriced you've even heard of the guy
He has been paid a ton of money to act as "international support" for Cataluña's independence. He has spent entire weeks over here.
"Mikko Karna Cataluña" or "Mikko Karna independence" and you'll find dozens of articles and videos.
I'd fucking hate Suomis if it wasn't for the fact that the Finnish parliament has actually contradicted Mikko several times.
Lol he even got into parliament cause Paavo Väyrynen decided to continue in european parliament and when väyrynen came back he had to leave the parliament
(translation from finnish wikipedia of this guy) "Kärnä is currently unemplyed. He has planned to write a book about his time in parliament and having holidays"
usually politicians are politicians to only spring to some nice job after their ruling time is over but this didn't even manage that
He's a barely-functional retard with no studies at all.
Also, he has actively worked to split a country, probably causing a civil war.
well he did graduate from Oulu Lyseo but he certainly doesn't have anything to do with catalonia and is not really famous politician in finnish ears like väyrynen, soini, kike, halla-aho and Orpo are
no really reason to be even salty about this dude, total nobody what comes to politics
Cataluña's actual international support for the independence:
· 🇮🇹 Salvini's party = at first, they've remained silent for over a year.
· 🇮🇪 The IRA
· 🇧🇪 Some party from Flanders that wants to split Belgium into 2 parts
· 🇫🇮 Mikko Karna
· 🇮🇷
The Iranian government is actively working with several fuckers to destroy Spain.
what about the (((Swizz)))
?
on who's side they are?
I don't know that name. 🇨🇭 supports Spain's unity.
🇮🇷 works with an alt-left party (the one that has worked for Maduro/Chávez) by giving them money and a TV channel and also gives money to the Catalan pro-independence movement.
But yeah Mikko doesn't really represent even centrist party which is far from what it used to be.
Jaume Roures (originally Jaime Robles, he changed his name to sound more Catalan) is a media mogul. He runs MediaPro, the company that owns the rights to the Spanish Soccer League, and produces a ton of TV shows and movies.
Meanwhile, the opposition to the Iranian government is actually giving money to VOX, Spain's true-right/alt-right party that is gonna enter congress big time in the next elections (April 28th).
I quite liked the old time centrist party when it was known as agrarian union, it was actually for rural people, was still refering to Alkio (finnish politicians and political philosopher around early 1900s) sometimes and was socially and fiscally conservative.
Here in Spain we've never had a rural party, we just have a seat distribution that makes barely-populated areas very interesting. This way ALL parties must show interest.
Like now the leader of centrist party is accusing finnish party leader about beeing against imigration and thus racist and said that he could provide living to imigrants in his house.
Podemos (the Iranian-backed and Venezuelan-backed alt-left party I've mentioned) is fucking retarded because they only show interest in urban areas. They rarely campaign in low-density areas.
2nd image - Left = That looks like some commie shit.
first one says "palanced house, peaceful society"
second picture left says "Enough is enough and the paper says "false promisses, price risings, forced democracy"
middle one says "Do you submit to be testrabit of socialism? if you dont vote bourgeois (finnish word for it doesnt have as negative hints as in english equilevant)"
this add I dont even think is rural union, Idk why is in there
left one says "danger ahead, rural union saves" and flashes say "communism, socialism"
tbh you can see some fascist and commie influences on these old rural party adverts
this one simply says "free finlad must be secured, vote rural union"
koekaniini = guinea pig (literal translation "test rabbit")
theyre been always centrist what comes to economics tho "free peoples straight line"
left sign: dictatorship of socialism and communism
right sign: chains of big businesses
so tldr:they we're quite based but aren't anymore
Worth-noting nationwide parties of Spain (left to right)
· Podemos (We can) = The alt-left. A lot of top players have studied Political Science. They're economically backed by 🇮🇷 and 🇻🇪, 2 dictatorships. People still vote them somehow. They think Catalan independence must be voted.
· PSOE (Socialist Worker's party) = The left or center-left depending on which top player you listen to. They've had few corruption cases but the total cost is at over 3000 million so far. Some top players think Catalan independence must be voted.
· Ciudadanos (Citizens) = The center... depending on the day, they regularly change opinions even on key topics. People dislike their ever-changing opinions and how they've worked with and against both PSOE and PP. At least they're consistent when it comes to hating Podemos.
· PP (People's party) = The center-right by Spanish standards, they'd be looked as commies in the USA. They've had dozens of corruption cases yet the total cost is right under 1500 miilion so far. It was founded by one of Francisco Franco's top men. They want parents to be able to choose whether to have Spanish or the regional language as the main language in Cataluña, Valencia, Balearic Islands and Euskadi but do not want that in Galicia for some odd reason.
· VOX (the Latin word for "voice") = The true-right/alt-right. Founded by a former PP member that didn't like how left-leaning PP had become. They've been backed by the OPPOSITION to 🇮🇷. They want to eliminate Cataluña's status as an autonomy, they want all laws to be nationwide, they want education programs to be as uniform as possible too.
FUN FACT = Podemos' 1-2 are husband and wife. Pablo Iglesias kicked out his former best friend Íñigo Errejón out so that his wife Irene Montero would become #2.
I'm quite happy for the rise of VOX as they seem to be the 1st Spanish party in congress to actively want to decrease the size of the government, which is literally the biggest business in Spain by a long shot.
tbh I dont really agree on Alkio's ideas on correct ruling system and the teetotalism that he had, but his opinion on actual agrarianism are in my opinion quite good and his view that largely ural parties don't attention to the causes that were most improtant to farmers.
VOX seems to be Spain's based ones, at least for now.