but nobody questions the process because we're rigourous on it

it is supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt, but even in good systems mistakes happen

and a capital punishment is not a mistake that can be fixed

yes, that's why even in singapore, we don't dish it out regularly

people think we cane everyone or we hang every single drug trafficker we lay our hands on

that's incorrect

plus death row in the us is gendered

98% of death row inmates were male

oh

yeah, then that's the problem

we hang both genders regardless

the law is blind to gender

i'm more for not hanging anyone but i get your point of view

I think capital punishment should not be used unless for the most sinister of crimes

when its beyond a doubt

justice has to speak up for the vicitim

example, we had a serial murderer here before

chopped up his victims

into tiny pieces

not a single murder mind you

maybe with a single murder, a lawyer could argue to get your charge dropped down to manslaughter

i don't believe in killing people for murder

in an eye for eye society a lot of people would be blind

the government is supposed to protect its citizens even if they are criminal and they have no right to kill them

war is state sanctioned murder

governments have every legal right to declare it

yea but it's murder of other nations' citizens

not that it's a good thing

still murder morally

the question is whether justice should be upheld

or morality

well i think morality is deeply subjective, that's why we have written laws

yes, but morality and justice goes hand in hand

laws and morality

laws are based on morality, but they are not the same thing

I'm saying they're linked and they complement one another

yes but the laws are what should be enforced

here's another problem

what happens if you commit a crime in another country

a judge can't imprison a person because they think what they did is wrong, they can only imprison people that violated the law

which has the death penalty