Message from @Right_Honourable

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2019-10-13 21:47:19 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-13 21:47:23 UTC  

the wine sector is big

2019-10-13 21:47:30 UTC  

Georgia purports to be the birthplace of wine

2019-10-13 21:47:50 UTC  

there's a wine store chain called "8,000 Vintages"

2019-10-13 21:48:00 UTC  

for the 8,000 different varieties of Georgian wine

2019-10-13 21:48:22 UTC  

Tourists from Russia or Europe or both?

2019-10-13 21:48:37 UTC  

overwhelmingly Russia

2019-10-13 21:48:48 UTC  

there's a few Europeans and Americans but not very many

2019-10-13 21:49:23 UTC  

walking down the tourist areas you're more likely to hear Russian, Farsi, or Turkish being spoken than English or any mainland European language

2019-10-13 21:49:37 UTC  

enough so that when I come across people speaking English I always do a double take

2019-10-13 21:50:16 UTC  

georgian wine is top tier

2019-10-13 21:50:28 UTC  

we drink it here in the PMR too

2019-10-13 21:50:30 UTC  

That’s got to be tough to rely essentially on the economies of other countries to be stable enough to keep yours afloat

2019-10-13 21:50:40 UTC  

georgian wine is the best in the world imo

2019-10-13 21:50:45 UTC  

yeah I'm not a wine guy but Georgian wine is pretty good

2019-10-13 21:51:03 UTC  

the best wine/chacha is generally homebrew tho

2019-10-13 21:51:30 UTC  

@Right_Honourable that's pretty much every country in Europe outside of the big powers

2019-10-13 21:52:10 UTC  

Georgia's problem is that it wants to orient to Europe and the West but Russians basically fuel their economy for reasons of geography

2019-10-13 21:52:46 UTC  

it'd be like if Canada wanted to stop trading with the U.S. and orient to Britain

2019-10-13 21:54:43 UTC  

No country should orient to the west

2019-10-13 21:55:05 UTC  

G@y pride marches every month

2019-10-13 21:55:10 UTC  

well

2019-10-13 21:55:44 UTC  

in the issue of Ukraine, Russia is a far less white place and has infinite reason to dump genetic waste on it

2019-10-13 21:55:57 UTC  

a lot of Eastern Europeans associate the U.S. with freedom and prosperity, that's their attraction to it

2019-10-13 21:56:06 UTC  

they still remember the Soviet Union

2019-10-13 21:56:27 UTC  

Georgians are pretty impressed with Americans

2019-10-13 21:56:32 UTC  

if your choices are gay pride parades and having to live in a neighborhood full of chechens

2019-10-13 21:56:35 UTC  

the sane choice is the former

2019-10-13 21:56:55 UTC  

when I flew in for the first time the clerk at the airport cafe saw my passport and was super excited

2019-10-13 21:58:00 UTC  

@blue falafel yeah I'm more ambivalent about this issue but most Eastern Europeans associate Russia with backwardness and savagery for a reason

2019-10-13 21:58:14 UTC  

yes

2019-10-13 21:59:18 UTC  

I’d imagine if you were under the umbrella of a brutal communist regime for decades you wouldn’t like their remnants either

2019-10-13 21:59:37 UTC  

goes back further than that

2019-10-13 21:59:43 UTC  

it isn't just that, it is that Russia today is kind of a dump

2019-10-13 21:59:50 UTC  

the Russian Empire wasn't a good option either

2019-10-13 21:59:59 UTC  

gigantic multiethnic empire

2019-10-13 22:00:09 UTC  

full of violent criminals

2019-10-13 22:00:16 UTC  

you can even see this today

2019-10-13 22:00:24 UTC  

My take is that Putin is the only good thing about Russia

2019-10-13 22:00:31 UTC  

Putin is the worst thing about Russia

2019-10-13 22:00:39 UTC  

he literally imprisons actual Russian nationalists