Message from @Right_Honourable

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2019-10-13 21:50:28 UTC  

we drink it here in the PMR too

2019-10-13 21:50:30 UTC  

That’s got to be tough to rely essentially on the economies of other countries to be stable enough to keep yours afloat

2019-10-13 21:50:40 UTC  

georgian wine is the best in the world imo

2019-10-13 21:50:45 UTC  

yeah I'm not a wine guy but Georgian wine is pretty good

2019-10-13 21:51:03 UTC  

the best wine/chacha is generally homebrew tho

2019-10-13 21:51:30 UTC  

@Right_Honourable that's pretty much every country in Europe outside of the big powers

2019-10-13 21:52:10 UTC  

Georgia's problem is that it wants to orient to Europe and the West but Russians basically fuel their economy for reasons of geography

2019-10-13 21:52:46 UTC  

it'd be like if Canada wanted to stop trading with the U.S. and orient to Britain

2019-10-13 21:54:43 UTC  

No country should orient to the west

2019-10-13 21:55:05 UTC  

G@y pride marches every month

2019-10-13 21:55:10 UTC  

well

2019-10-13 21:55:44 UTC  

in the issue of Ukraine, Russia is a far less white place and has infinite reason to dump genetic waste on it

2019-10-13 21:55:57 UTC  

a lot of Eastern Europeans associate the U.S. with freedom and prosperity, that's their attraction to it

2019-10-13 21:56:06 UTC  

they still remember the Soviet Union

2019-10-13 21:56:27 UTC  

Georgians are pretty impressed with Americans

2019-10-13 21:56:32 UTC  

if your choices are gay pride parades and having to live in a neighborhood full of chechens

2019-10-13 21:56:35 UTC  

the sane choice is the former

2019-10-13 21:56:55 UTC  

when I flew in for the first time the clerk at the airport cafe saw my passport and was super excited

2019-10-13 21:58:00 UTC  

@blue falafel yeah I'm more ambivalent about this issue but most Eastern Europeans associate Russia with backwardness and savagery for a reason

2019-10-13 21:58:14 UTC  

yes

2019-10-13 21:59:18 UTC  

I’d imagine if you were under the umbrella of a brutal communist regime for decades you wouldn’t like their remnants either

2019-10-13 21:59:37 UTC  

goes back further than that

2019-10-13 21:59:43 UTC  

it isn't just that, it is that Russia today is kind of a dump

2019-10-13 21:59:50 UTC  

the Russian Empire wasn't a good option either

2019-10-13 21:59:59 UTC  

gigantic multiethnic empire

2019-10-13 22:00:09 UTC  

full of violent criminals

2019-10-13 22:00:16 UTC  

you can even see this today

2019-10-13 22:00:24 UTC  

My take is that Putin is the only good thing about Russia

2019-10-13 22:00:31 UTC  

Putin is the worst thing about Russia

2019-10-13 22:00:39 UTC  

he literally imprisons actual Russian nationalists

2019-10-13 22:00:40 UTC  

in huge numbers

2019-10-13 22:00:56 UTC  

if you compare the portions of Eastern Europe that were under German/Austrian domination versus the ones that were under Russian domination the former are always better off

2019-10-13 22:01:11 UTC  

Yes but didn’t he put the oligarchs in line

2019-10-13 22:01:17 UTC  

no lol

2019-10-13 22:01:19 UTC  

they run amok today

2019-10-13 22:01:24 UTC  

oligarchs put him in power

2019-10-13 22:01:33 UTC  

and the big Jewish one, Abromovich

2019-10-13 22:01:41 UTC  

which basically gave Putin his position

2019-10-13 22:01:47 UTC  

is still a big supporter

2019-10-13 22:02:45 UTC  

Interesting I guess I had it backwards

2019-10-13 22:02:45 UTC  

yeah that's a running theme in FSU politics