Message from @SirW00f

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2019-09-17 07:29:49 UTC  

@SirW00f i'd like to see sauce for this, the reason i'm worrying is because my parents vape in order to stop using cigarettes and they wont have it with the unflavored crap, i dont want them to go back to smoking actual cigarrettes

2019-09-17 07:30:15 UTC  

i already lost a grandma to lung cancer

2019-09-17 07:30:57 UTC  

the problem with the cigarettes is the pesticides used...and most of them aren't pure tobacco...they're like up to 90% licorice pulp added to the blends

2019-09-17 07:31:27 UTC  

the pesticides are cancerous

2019-09-17 07:33:23 UTC  

it isnt the pestacides alone, its the process in which such tobacco is aged

2019-09-17 07:33:26 UTC  

tobacco grown in a pesticide-free environment in most cases have been proven to be mostly carcinogenic free(except for nicotine which for some reason is classified as a carcinogenic even tho no clean tests were performed on it)

2019-09-17 07:34:02 UTC  

actually my uncle and his sons were tobacco farmers

2019-09-17 07:36:00 UTC  

the plant is basically harvested from base of root and hung for weeks/months in a moist environment upside down to allow for aging properly(they replaced this method on an industrial scale with nitrogen pressure chambers at processing plants which tends to create more problems than u realize)

2019-09-17 07:37:01 UTC  

most fresh fruit/vegs in stores is processed thru these pressure chambers to speed up ripening of green crops

2019-09-17 07:37:51 UTC  

which is why when u go shopping most of the time the fruits/vegs are hard...naturally ripe are soft

2019-09-17 07:38:17 UTC  

over ripe is mushy

2019-09-17 07:39:16 UTC  

it's bad enough they over nitrate the soil the crops are grown in...now they pressure expose them to nitrogen to speed up ripening process

2019-09-17 07:39:48 UTC  

@SirW00f tbh i still wanna see details on trumps supposed ban

2019-09-17 07:40:13 UTC  

because if you are right it'll reaffirm my stance of allegience with trump

2019-09-17 07:40:23 UTC  

well have u noticed the proposed ban came out after several ppl got into the hospital

2019-09-17 07:40:47 UTC  

yes but that doesnt matter, what matters is what the ban will do

2019-09-17 07:41:22 UTC  

and it was later discovered that the vape juice was an illegal version with synthetic thc

2019-09-17 07:41:50 UTC  

it was the vitamin E derivative actually that caused it

2019-09-17 07:41:54 UTC  

well from what i know, trump approves of the vape being used to get ppl off smoking

2019-09-17 07:42:05 UTC  

the derivative becomes toxic at certain temperatures

2019-09-17 07:42:42 UTC  

well a derivative of vitamin A screwed up my body and put me thru 2yrs of pain.....accutane

2019-09-17 07:42:54 UTC  

and it wasn't even heated

2019-09-17 07:43:18 UTC  

still that doesn't prove anything @SirW00f so i'll make my statement again, if he tries to ban all flavored vapes i will not vote for him in 2020

2019-09-17 07:43:21 UTC  

period

2019-09-17 07:44:15 UTC  

i don't think he'll ban flavored vapes...most likely make it criminally enforceable if sold to under legal age for the state

2019-09-17 08:02:27 UTC  

Any flavored vape out of China, as a user I would think twice. Manufacturer it here with larger oversight and protections.

2019-09-17 08:03:10 UTC  

any vape bought should be given a full testing

2019-09-17 08:03:45 UTC  

even i experimented with making my own vape juice

2019-09-17 08:04:10 UTC  

most of the 'flavors' are artificial in the premade stuff

2019-09-17 08:04:11 UTC  

When you have some being shipped in from China and repackaged here in the states, I am all for bans against China being involved at all.

2019-09-17 08:04:58 UTC  

the important thing is to test the materials and how they react to thermal changes and the heating elements

2019-09-17 08:05:17 UTC  

Some is testing positive already for lead.

2019-09-17 08:05:36 UTC  

the juices or the vape machines

2019-09-17 08:05:49 UTC  

Both cartridges and the ejuice

2019-09-17 08:06:41 UTC  

the article was talking about lead content of toys in children in mid 2005-2008 and what they tested showed lead again.

2019-09-17 08:06:52 UTC  

clean ceramic heater is the best to use ...no byproducts produced when heating

2019-09-17 08:07:10 UTC  

only problem with the ceramic is it uses more power

2019-09-17 08:07:28 UTC  

Best case is not needing the vice period 😉

2019-09-17 08:08:08 UTC  

a pure ultra sonic vaporizer(no heating) is useful too..but any current experimental models are metalic

2019-09-17 08:08:40 UTC  

do better with a pump spray....no power needed just ur fingers