If you guys like to dig, check out Dr Ivan Panin, he came to America after trying to depose some ruler, I forget where and learned math, he went to Harvard and became a Christian and found something amazing in the original manuscripts you should check out

Yes. I told my friend this is wrong. And I told pastor more or less this is bs.

Church won't save anyone

maga gal, it's an epic moment when u have to restore faith to a preacher in public

I love God. I’ve always had a problem with organized religion. And finally I realize it was not me.

yep...and thats why i left the church..i believe in god, not religions

This is at Skeptic without pinging him/her, check out dr Ivan Panin specifically his response to the NY Sun Times article for proof of God

god made the universe and all life within it...its up to us to evolve to understand all in god's universe

man made religion...not god

I’ve always felt closer to God on my nature walks and have even known he’s talking to me then sometimes. Words of wisdom come out of the blue. But I’ve always been shamed by the church people for that.

@S33k3r I’ve written name down. Gonna check out. Thx

purity of observation is a great awakening to many

oddly enough i got a few ppl rescued from bad lives that way

My heart and soul have always told me the truth. I wasn’t brought up in the church so maybe it was easier to hear. But i still tried to conform.

The gift of Knowledge of Wisdom is a real gift. Which church is shaming you for this gift? It's a Holy Spirit gift.

Since God is the Author of Logic, Knowledge, and the Sciences its all in His book

always observe the purity and innocence around u..but be mindful of those that wish to exploit it

or even destroy it

I’ve been to almost every denomination. Same.

They obviously don't read their bible then.

have you tried Calvary Chapel the Chuck Smith based Church

even true scientists have to rely on faith

I would suggest staying away from churches that don't know serious doctrine. You never know what they are preaching.

In our hearts we know the truth. It’s when we try to conform to the accepted we get into trouble

There are good churches I have no doubt. But truly we need to heed the wisdom and discrimination God has put in our mind and heart to discern truth. Religion is a man made thing. So no matter how good the intent it is flawed.

the definition of science is and has always been the collection of data through testing and observation and experimentation of data...not theory

❤❤❤ so nice to see that others believe as I do. Religion twists and perverts so much.

But what is true doctrine? How do we know? I mean there’s obvious preachers that are so off base. But do we really know?

Maga you meant discernment not discrimination ?

Yes!

Although I think they’re pretty synonymous

we know because we like the Bereans read the scriptures daily to discern the truth

It’s funny. The things I’ve always questioned about the scriptures my son did too. There are some things that just don’t make sense or fit.

@Maga gal I think if we approach with a loving heart and yes, read the scriptures, God nudges us in the direction we need to go but we have to be open to direction

If you are reading a translation and not some transliteration you should be good, there are a lot of commentaries you can read to find the deeper meaning the translation doesn't do justice to

Absolutely. But keep in mind they’ve been altered.

yes true but you should be aware of those alterations

The truth of scripture in written in such a way that its not just on one page but litterally spread across the entire bible

Like God is a jealous god. But jealousy is a sin. And God is without sin.

Jealousy of Man is a sin because man is not judge

God is the Judge and His Jelousy is when His people go Whoring after other false gods