Message from @JDCREW
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I'm personally conflicted on the matter but that's part of why I don't think I could join the military
"Soldiers should obey orders from authority figures they disagree with."
*Libertism*
I feel like
Thw military
Should be able to resist orders that are unlawful
okay yall keep diggin... ffs
Not their leaders
I disagree
But how do you know that an order is unlawful, when all you can see is what's in front of you, not the whole picture?
If the military was forced to commit genocide
Germany is doing that after world war two
I would abree
Agree*
To let the military to not obey
Have we been ordered to?
The exact same principle could hold to an unlawful order. How do you know the full context?
No, but its an example
They were ordered to line a street for protection of a presidential detail, take politics out, and it's very much lawful.
The Germans also know a thing or two about it though
@Abby/15/BLM/LGBT/ a lot of people like to think they would do the right thing in that situation, but it's not as simple as that. I think that troops turning their backs to a man they deem as a traitor is fine, he has no control over them yet
Alpha-57 is the most authoritarian libertarian I've ever met.
I'm agreeing they shouldn't face away from their leader
i doubt that @Kreia's Disciple haha
This is why it's sus. Because I was an ancap for a long time. And you're not acting like any libertarian I have ever seen.
I never said anyone should be forced to live that life, they chose to join. There are consequences that accompany choice.
I've heard plenty of stories of troops who disobey orders and become heroes, but that's still not what they're supposed to do.
Ehhh
they are condemned
sometimes it's for the better, and they come out as heroes, but otherwise, that's disobeying orders
there are plenty of little would be despots who love to wear the cloak of libertarianism but can barely define the non aggression principle let alone practice it
I prefer to be shot doing the right thing and not shot under an unjusorder
right, but soldiers are soldiers because they listen to their superior. If every soldier had his way, the military would be a dumpster fire
At this point, I'd just be happy being shot.
Ikr
and with that im out entirely have fun mods
So you're blackpilled.
I already said. I'm tired.
I don't care anymore, I'm in this for myself and my family.
let's drop this conversation. we're all in our own sour moods. If y'all want to continue, feel free but I have work to do