Message from @windows96

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2021-01-20 00:59:13 UTC  

Also, what incompatible driver with the Linux games? I don't remember anything about that in the video.

2021-01-20 01:01:17 UTC  

9:13 in the video I linked; not an incompatible driver but it's saying the driver is very old

2021-01-20 01:01:26 UTC  

And when a linux game is telling you that to me that's not good

2021-01-20 01:01:53 UTC  

SuperTuxKart

2021-01-20 01:15:25 UTC  

i played that on a decade old laptop and it didnt complain about an old driver

2021-01-20 01:15:26 UTC  

OOF

2021-01-20 01:16:49 UTC  

I imagine it has more to do that it doesn't recognize the driver and assumes it's old.

2021-01-20 01:22:36 UTC  

it's ARM based right? a lot of ARM gpu's have pretty terrible open drivers, due to lack of interest

2021-01-20 01:24:58 UTC  

The CPU is ARM but the GPU is a Vivante GC7000Lite

2021-01-20 01:25:30 UTC  

Probably doesn’t like the version of OpenGL

2021-01-20 01:28:26 UTC  

openGL es 3.1 with hardware tesselation geometry and computer shader

2021-01-20 01:28:31 UTC  

according to vivantecorp

2021-01-20 01:28:39 UTC  

I know getting GPU acceleration is something they're working on and isn't fully implemented so the game may be trying to run in software mode which may have a weird OpenGL like you mentioned. I'm almost sure though that I've seen a video where super tux was running with GPU acceleration on the Lebrem 5.

2021-01-20 01:29:23 UTC  

but i imagine a lot of the features probably aren't in good shape if they are doing a driver 100% from scratch, at least for now

2021-01-20 01:31:23 UTC  

They are at least getting the hard work out of the way now and upstreaming any code changes they make. This means other people can make Linux phones in the future and I have a head start.

2021-01-20 01:32:05 UTC  

it has 64 gflops of compute performance... thats less than a hd 4550, from 12 years ago... they got their work cut out for em optimizing it

2021-01-20 01:32:44 UTC  

but im glad at least someone is trying to make an open source phone

2021-01-20 01:34:56 UTC  

i hope it at least has a microscopic TDP

2021-01-20 01:44:37 UTC  

oh hell yea its made in the USA

2021-01-20 02:57:03 UTC  

So looking at Super Tux Kart

2021-01-20 02:57:54 UTC  

in main we can see where the pop up for the driver is:
`if (UserConfigParams::m_old_driver_popup)
{
#ifdef USE_GLES2
irr::core::stringw version = "OpenGL ES 3.0";
#else
irr::core::stringw version = "OpenGL 3.3";
#endif
MessageDialog *dialog = new MessageDialog(_(
"Your graphics driver appears to be very old. Please "
"check if an update is available. SuperTuxKart "
"recommends a driver supporting %s or better. The game "
"will likely still run, but in a reduced-graphics mode.",
version), /*from queue*/ true);
GUIEngine::DialogQueue::get()->pushDialog(dialog);
}
#endif`

2021-01-20 03:00:13 UTC  

And these are the driver versions defined in their rules xml

2021-01-20 03:00:54 UTC  

`<card contains="Mesa" os="linux" version="<10.3" disable="BufferStorage"/>
<card contains="Mesa" os="linux" version="<10.3" disable="DriverRecentEnough"/>
<card contains="Mesa" os="linux" version="<11.2" disable="GeometryShader"/>
<card contains="Mesa" os="linux" version="<11.2" disable="TextureCompressionS3TC"/>`

2021-01-20 03:11:36 UTC  

so its either because their driver isn't Mesa, or it only implements openGL ES 2?

2021-01-20 03:19:04 UTC  

I think it's because it's opengl es2

2021-01-20 03:19:45 UTC  

That driverRecentEnough line was added in 2015 so the driver implementation was old 6 years ago

2021-01-20 03:20:01 UTC  

my laptop is opengl 3.3 and it throws no errors when i played it on manjaro

2021-01-20 03:23:00 UTC  

what gpu do you ahve on it?

2021-01-20 03:23:43 UTC  

HD 3000, intel

2021-01-20 03:24:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801170161868341308/801290926420525057/unknown.png

2021-01-20 03:24:10 UTC  

i just recently upgraded to it from a Pentium 4 w ATI Radeon 7000m laptop XD

2021-01-20 03:24:13 UTC  

Here is the full Graphics restrictions xml

2021-01-20 03:24:48 UTC  

so it just disable 10bitnormalization on linux?

2021-01-20 03:25:01 UTC  

since it would be sandy bridge

2021-01-20 03:34:55 UTC  

It appears if your gpu reads as being Sandybridge and the driver is less than 17.4 it would disable 10bitnormalization

2021-01-20 04:23:23 UTC  

Will Tyler join minds.com? It's a social media alternative. Tim Poole was talking about it the other night

2021-01-20 04:26:42 UTC  

What is Minds.com like?

2021-01-20 04:40:26 UTC  

im going to look into it

2021-01-20 04:41:21 UTC  

lik a facebook alternative basically?

2021-01-20 04:42:06 UTC  

It's kind of like a facebook/Instagram alternative based off of blockchain

2021-01-20 04:43:57 UTC  

Their code of how everything works is open source for transparency and accountability so normal people can see how their algorithms work and arent hidden like facebook or google