I would say grey man would be better

I’m assuming you live in an urban area?

Yes, but even then, it would be best to always be able to blend in

Grey does loss time to several options it’s only an expansion of EDC items. Where tac man is built for up to a month exit from home or unlimited time.

Do a mix?

Make a pack for both. Carry the grey man pack everyday and leave the tac man pack at home or hide it at work if possible.

always grey. You can be prepared and not stand out. If I want support, I only intend to take it from the guys I know personally, and we will likely coordinate anything if need be. say, e.g., there is huricane and you have to hunt or do some sort of supply run. I look kitted up, people are going to wonder whats up, follow me, and maybe even figure out that I have resources wherever i am staying

then I have the problem of potentially needing to defend my stuff and fam if people really get desperate

even in an edc application, i dont want to be a target

e.g., if there was an active shooter, if he knows I have a gun before I know he does, he is going to take me out. if I look like everyone else, my odds of being able to take him out are much better.

thats just how I see it.

I think there is a time and a place for show of force, but I would personally avoid it

Yea

There's pros and cons to open carrying and conceal carrying

By open carrying you can typically draw faster. Then again, that doesn't matter if you're dead...

Yeah, sometimes you get targeted more/first when open carrying

Like what sixfive was saying xd

yes

Yeah, good to know

yeah can confirm, for longer-distance backpacking / etc you really want to consolidate items as much as possible, like probably only having one main cooking container and then a thermos for whatever liquid prefer to drink is more than adequate. it may not be the most comfortable but your back and knees will thank you for it

^yup, I completely agree.

I did the AT a few years ago I only carried what could be considered grey man while doing that I was more likely to be targeted for theft and was robbed once. Leading the rest of the journey for tac carry with old army equipment that I had which lead to people avoiding me on the hike and people of same mindsets joining me making a MAD like situation same situation when I hiked out west too. I will still walk gently with a big stick only works if those can see the big stick.

makes sense. ngl, on the AT, I too carry a big ass knife where everyone can see it.

I still think that if your in a crowd of people though, its a good idea to blend in.

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So is america gonna turn into The Division 2?

Me who’s beat the game and maxed out my stats

**my time has come**

Ounces = Pounds

Pounds = Pain

This one kid brings his fucking laptop when we go backpacking

When I’m doing stuff with my SAR group one of us carries this massive med bag that has a folding stretcher inside it. Among other things

cool

speaking of which where can i get one of them folding strechers

https://www.gseason.com/products/medical-and-rescue/military/medevac2-tactical-stretcher

cool thanks

how easy is it to unfold

Usually takes a pair of us to do it as the rods can be a bit stiff.

And you have to twist out and hold it

I see ok

Still useful if you are in a group