Message from @nightstvlker

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2020-02-28 06:08:26 UTC  

Daniel Two and seven can tella prophecy that we can see through secular history.

2020-02-28 06:09:10 UTC  

And @Deleted User I go to the World Mission society Church of God.

2020-02-28 06:09:23 UTC  

Okay

2020-02-28 06:09:43 UTC  

I'm just observing

2020-02-28 06:12:00 UTC  

But for this study where I go does not matter, it’s clear historical text and our church isn’t the only one to believe it.

2020-02-28 06:12:32 UTC  

I'm just waiting for the connection you're trying to make to the Catholic church.

2020-02-28 06:12:52 UTC  

or the pope, or whichever connection you're asserting

2020-02-28 06:13:29 UTC  

I think I read correctly that you said the Catholic church is the anti-christ.

2020-02-28 06:13:42 UTC  

or the likes

2020-02-28 06:14:32 UTC  

Then you gave Daniel chapters 2 and 7 to support that.

2020-02-28 06:15:11 UTC  

Maybe you can be more specific on which verses point this out.

2020-02-28 06:16:43 UTC  

Sorry So I’ll start with 7:1

2020-02-28 06:17:47 UTC  

Since Both King Nebuchadnezzars dream

2020-02-28 06:18:36 UTC  

And Daniels Dream mean the same exact thing.

2020-02-28 06:31:09 UTC  

?

2020-02-28 06:31:34 UTC  

So it starts of introducing that this was a dream, but we have come to know it as prophecy that has been fulfilled.On v2 there are four great beast, and we can confirm this based on v. 17.
V4 The first beast is a lion, which represents Daniels current day Babylon, it was majestic, beautiful, but Daniel watched as the kingdom was taken by the second beast, a bear with three ribs in its mouth, the ribs are the countries that Media-Persia over took: Babylon, Egypt, and Libia.
Then Media-Persia is destroyed by the second beast, a Leopard with four wings, this beast as we have come to know history is known as Greece. Alexander the Great led and served as King established the largest empire the world had ever seen. The four wings represent the four generals

2020-02-28 06:32:08 UTC  

Cassender Lysimachus

2020-02-28 06:32:49 UTC  

Ptolemy

2020-02-28 06:33:06 UTC  

Selecucus

2020-02-28 06:34:53 UTC  

Then the four beast presents Rome. The ten horns represent ten kingdom

2020-02-28 06:36:01 UTC  

These are the ten kingdoms:

2020-02-28 06:37:47 UTC  

Those were tusks in Beast #2, the bear's, mouth; hence, the command: "Arise, devour much flesh."
> _The second beast was like a bear;* it was raised up on one side, and among the teeth in its mouth were three tusks. It was given the order, “Arise, devour much flesh.” _

2020-02-28 06:37:48 UTC  

Always read Daniels prophecy in conjunctiin with Revelation if I may be so bold as to say. Though it isperfect in its parrallel to secular history, it cannot be interpreted correctly in its full breadth and scopewithout the two. The symbology and allegory used are the same as is used by themystery schools. Both are meant as not only an answer to what is comming forus, but as a rebuttal to mystery babylon. They hiwever solved this problem by convincing their adepts that both Gods word and their plans arebased upon the astrotheological plan that the mystery religions have as one of their basic tenants

2020-02-28 06:39:30 UTC  

Three tusks or ribs, the part of the body maybe different translation to translation @Karnivore but the imagery is still the same.

2020-02-28 06:39:50 UTC  

One big mistake people make is they think beasts are kingdoms, these are always represented by horns or crowns. A beast is a governmental system.

2020-02-28 06:40:04 UTC  

@Vitaly Hmelevsky this is just a first part of it

2020-02-28 06:40:21 UTC  
2020-02-28 06:42:34 UTC  

@Vitaly Hmelevsky Night Stalker made an assertion to carnivore that he is backing up

2020-02-28 06:44:27 UTC  

@Deleted User got it, I just jumped in out of nowhere, my apologies

2020-02-28 06:44:27 UTC  

@Karnivore i m not asking for an argument about what imagery as been changed the meaning of this prophecy has stayed the same through each revision.

2020-02-28 06:44:31 UTC  

I'm looking for the trap door, before it springs open behind me.

2020-02-28 06:46:22 UTC  

I'm interested in how the book of Daniel somehow should be manipulated and contorted to indict the Catholic church as the anti-christ.

2020-02-28 06:47:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632268368916906023/682841211010023444/image0.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632268368916906023/682841211827912727/image1.png

2020-02-28 06:47:26 UTC  

I’m getting to it @Karnivore

2020-02-28 06:48:05 UTC  

This isn’t an easy subject to not only describe vs to vs but also get you history to go along with it

2020-02-28 06:55:18 UTC  

From those ten horns, a little horn came out, which uprooted three:
Heruli, Vandals and Ostrogoths 493ad 534ad and then 538ad respectively. These were the weakest kingdoms and 538 ad is when the that’s when the Papacy came into full power as the first to use politics and religion rule, this was also the beginning of the dark ages. And murdering true believers.

2020-02-28 06:55:46 UTC  

We see this in v21

2020-02-28 06:56:42 UTC  

> Daniel 11:21:
> _ “There shall arise in his place a despicable person, to whom the royal insignia shall not be given. He shall enter by stealth and seize the kingdom by fraud."_
Here begins the career of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

2020-02-28 06:57:24 UTC  

It has nothing to do with the pope.

2020-02-28 06:57:31 UTC  

That's another contrivance of anti-catholics.