To men

In the countries where women have no rights, they're doing way better.

I mean. They have basic human rights.

But I don't think they're allowed to work or vote.

Women aren't the problem, it's there empowerment and hypergamy that have always been the issue.

!!!

We want the species to continue,(most of us) and women are the gate keepers(for now)

*boards @Artemis and sits down at the command console* TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!!!

Yes I know, but the point is, we don't allow children to vote, right? Well, women act like children. They're like adult babies. They will vote for anything that benefits them at the expense of men and hell maybe even their own hildren will suffer.

Children*

***Just Bhop to Space its so easy***

It's not women that are the problem, I agree, but it's giving them rights freely without earning it that's the problem. It's hard to keep a dog on a leash once you put a crown on it's head.

@Intelligent_Gorilla the most common consensus I have seen in the community is a voting rights system analogous to what we saw in Starship Troopers.

There have also been variations of that same idea that are just as sound.

What happened in Starship Troopers?

Only citizens can vote

Being born doesnt make a you citizen. But a civilian. Military service gauruntees citizenship along with other federal jobs (after some time)

Everyone enjoys other basic human rights

I want to buy a full set of MGTOW gear one day. Ring and all.

You mean like the Spartans?

There is a strong disincentive for women to report rape in Muslim countries. If she is unable to produce four witnesses to the rape, the Sharia court will find that she was not raped. Now, given the circumstances, they may go on to find that the woman committed extramarital sex for which the penalty is stoning to death.

But how would there ever be four witnesses?

Don't ask me, ask an Imam. But it's an effective system for Muslims to say there is no rape in Islamic countries.

Four fucking witnesses

That's insane

Most rape when it does occur isnt witnessed by anyone.

I don't know. That sounds a bit screwed up.

Quran (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..." Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

Copied from thereligionofpeace website's page on rape and adultery.

I wonder if that rule was written so the Prophet wouldnt lose face for his favorite wife being a cheating whore

Are you sure about that? Surely his wife would have been stoned to death if what you say is true.

Who knows?

Rape or lack thereof can't be proven or disproven because you never know whether or not the sex was consensual.

Well we can muse about theories concerning the purity of a 1400 year old dead woman or we can move along to better topics.

There are more appealing topics to me than Islam. But people need to realise that Muslims are using our ignorance about Islam to deceive and ultimately dominate us.

This is why people should wear condoms when having sex for any sex other than reproductive sex. It pretty much rules it out. If a woman claims she was raped, then some random dude's DNA is found other than her current partner, she was probably raped. But because women have become infertile cum dumps through birth control and take raw cock all the time, there's no way to know at this point.

She would have DNA traces of like 100+ men in her pussy.

@zatoichi that's a very common tactic actually, say one thing and do another - that concept transcends religion

Okay, so new topic - what's on your minds gents?

I don't know. I'm getting quite tired. Maybe a topic of how everyone is sleeping might be a good topic. I've been trying my hardest to get on a decent schedule, but I keep screwing it up.