involves China sorta doing a Pearly Harbor like event against US craft, except instead of the US vessels not being centered in one spot, China would pick them off with a multitude of rapid strikes via submarines and hypersonic missiles, and in the confusion and chaos invade smaller neighbors like Korea and Taiwan

> there's only 1 real rising power, China, and they've taken the spot of Russia as Russia's been heavily reluctant on doing anything offensive military related due to their economy being fucked pretty much
@Zilla They should be easy to defeat, seen as their technology is not really top grade, but they do have insane manpower

youd be surprised, for the past 10 years China's been on a fast track to modernizing their armed forces

> involves China sorta doing a Pearly Harbor like event against US craft, except instead of the US vessels not being centered in one spot, China would pick them off with a multitude of rapid strikes via submarines and hypersonic missiles, and in the confusion and chaos invade smaller neighbors like Korea and Taiwan
@Zilla Will Russia back China, or will Putin do a hard pass?

I Understand that

If China makes the Chinese military gear we just have to wait a month

> @Zilla Will Russia back China, or will Putin do a hard pass?
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty I think a hard pass, Russia has been on pretty bad relations as of late with China

> youd be surprised, for the past 10 years China's been on a fast track to modernizing their armed forces
@Zilla They still lost to India, they're doing massive Layoffs in their army, and the soldiers they have left are all "Little Emperors"

aka spoiled brats

frankly what most we know about China's military is what they want us to see, a technologically weak and disorganized group using outdated equipment with their only strong point being massive numbers of infantry and armor. Meaning we have fallen for one of Sun Su's The Art of War techniques

not to mention the PLA hasn't seen any real combat for around 30-40+ years

China claims to be making improvements, but their gear is just not there

> frankly what most we know about China's military is what they want us to see, a technologically weak and disorganized group using outdated equipment with their only strong point being massive numbers of infantry and armor. Meaning we have fallen for one of Sun Su's The Art of War techniques
@Zilla Then why are they still losing to India

its simple, creating a skirmish at the Indian border and losing further drives the apearence and distracts from other things they are doing

Their best tank (Type-99) has 400mm of Turret Armor and 260mm of Hull armor, ERA bumps that to 725mm

Our M1A2 can punch through with 831mm of penetration

in the age of Tank warfare, armor has become fairly irrelivent as armor has not been able to keep up with the rapidly advancing ballistics tech of Sabots

alright then, so if they have tech we don't then we do the next best thing, We strike their industrial capabilities with accurate high density bombing runs and cripple their industries

and if we can, target their bases

can't run a tank if we've already nuked your supplies <:thinking:726878987837636698>

True

the way the US wins wars is by maintaining Aerial and Naval Superiority

And a unbreakable blockade

the Ground is a luxury we can afford as long as we can ensure its our Planes controlling the skies

issue is, you cant really do bombing runs on targets unless you absolutely have air superiority, which is something we wont really have against China mainland wise, since we can only carry so many fighters to their coastline while they can have hundreds upon hundreds in the air taking out bombers and fighters

They can't see us with B2's and F-35's

at least not until its too late

thats partly true

> as in where would it start
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty Hmmm maybe in the area that's being disputed between India and Pakistan

and B1-B's are Extremely fast, they can't catch up to those in time

while we cant really see the B2's and the F-35's with radar splashing them from the front, radar splashing an F-35 from the rear will make it light up like a christmas tree on broadway

even without the bombers and fighters, we still have submarines with missiles that can strike and submerge

F-22's are amazing and air superiority

> F-22's are amazing and air superiority
@PantherUnit01 indeed

yall are also forgetting another thing, China has put massive work into anti-missile and anti-bomb laser technology

> while we cant really see the B2's and the F-35's with radar splashing them from the front, radar splashing an F-35 from the rear will make it light up like a christmas tree on broadway
That's why electronic warfare aircraft would probably be sent in before anything else

> yall are also forgetting another thing, China has put massive work into anti-missile and anti-bomb laser technology
@Zilla It works, 40% of the time, it has yet to be perfected, they are copying it from Israel's Iron Dome technology

even if it only works 40% of the time, that still heavily hampers our abilities to actually bomb them

America holds the Unique advantage of being to combine the Quality and Quantity aspects of good armies, which is an advantage we need to effectively utilize to be able to fight China and hold the advantage

True

plus I'd take that 40% chance, China has poor QC