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the white one used 119 with a 3-7 degree thrust vector

Wait I didn't know the 23 could vector

barely

Is it enough to be useful

It is

think about it, SU-27's had thrust vector as well but it was a restricted 3-5 degrees

so that little bit of vector displacement goes a long ways

The Russians shit their pants seeing the 23 and 22 for the first time

Yeah, because the west, not only matched their agility, they also became Sky ninjas

its not until they found a way to use short wave radars to spot stealth targets

Isn't short wave very flawed

the issue is that short wave radars have a lot of clutter and to clean up that clutter it takes a lot of effort

I love SU's

Su27ub

The first time a played with a russian jet (Mig 21 at the time) I never looked back on US fighters

Do you still like American fighters

It was liberating to out maneuver a target

I do, mostly out of Speed and ammo capacity

Do you play ace combat 7

Yes, but my disc drive is broken, I need to buy it digital, again

Yea I got all of the stealthy bois

Including the x02s

I got all of the planes minus the DLC ones that came out

because Disc drive is broken

It's funny that I dont even have the f15c

I went with the f2a, f15j, f15e then yf23

F2A is my puppy

the only F16 style plane that I actually enjoy a lot

I haven't used it in a long time, is it good

did you know its composite wing tips are actually stealthy?

I didn't know that

Su30sm, yf23 and SAAB gripen are my bitches in ace combat 7

Ah yes, Gripen I enjoy as well

The gripen burst missiles are god

They stealth nerfed the SU-s minus 47 and 57

I dont have the 47, 34, or 35 yet

34 is not nerfed, but 30,30M2,35 and 37 are nerfed