What source

which is not only peculiar, but also strange

It had the same engine as the f22, yf119

And the yf120

Both yf23 and yf22 had those engines

> What source
@Identity crisis the plane I search a lot in the Military forums and blogs

The yf23 engine was made to supercruise, pratt & Whitley f119

I mean, what I heard was that the YF 23 used a non super cruise engine in testing, but you said that the super cruise was a requirement, so it conflicts with my sources making them the liars

There were 2 yf23 prototypes, they both had different engines

I know there were 2 of them, both are museum pieces now

The yf120 engine couldn't supercruise which was on one of the prototypes

Same with the f22

Ah so one was cheaper to maintain technically

but ultimately 119 was chosen

Yes because it was a more capable engine

While 119 is more expensive, it does have the fuel efficiency benefit

I think the 120 was just a placeholder for the 119 because the 120 couldn't supercruise

I could be wrong

You're correct, 120 couldn't super cruise but it was more reliable since it uses the same parts as 119 without the Super cruise impeller

So the guys in the forums are talking about the yf23 with 120s then

Yep, which might be the Black painted YF23

I personally like the white one

More

the white one used 119 with a 3-7 degree thrust vector

Wait I didn't know the 23 could vector

barely

Is it enough to be useful

It is

think about it, SU-27's had thrust vector as well but it was a restricted 3-5 degrees

so that little bit of vector displacement goes a long ways

The Russians shit their pants seeing the 23 and 22 for the first time

Yeah, because the west, not only matched their agility, they also became Sky ninjas

its not until they found a way to use short wave radars to spot stealth targets

Isn't short wave very flawed

the issue is that short wave radars have a lot of clutter and to clean up that clutter it takes a lot of effort

I love SU's

Su27ub

The first time a played with a russian jet (Mig 21 at the time) I never looked back on US fighters

Do you still like American fighters