Message from @longdickerson

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2020-07-06 01:05:42 UTC  

No brace?

2020-07-06 01:05:50 UTC  

@Sage Ive worked as a maintenance tech and machinist too long to believe that man.

2020-07-06 01:06:23 UTC  

@Ironman I work in a related field, and have been using grease over oil on my guns for almost 10 years now. Try it - it's way better.

2020-07-06 01:07:38 UTC  

And I work as a part time gunsmith. Grease = carbon. Might as well use cosmoline.

2020-07-06 01:08:02 UTC  

Nope. Everybody who I've told to try this thought I was crazy, then I lubed their rifle. All believers.

2020-07-06 01:08:11 UTC  

@Sage never used one, I still need to figure out what sights to use, it's different on the pistols

2020-07-06 01:08:12 UTC  

Grease = really thick oil.

2020-07-06 01:08:34 UTC  

Ill stick with my light machine oil. The name of the game in tight tolerance is viscosity

2020-07-06 01:08:38 UTC  

ehh, not always

2020-07-06 01:08:56 UTC  

Oil is often petrolium based, whereas grease is usually lithium hydroxide based

2020-07-06 01:09:05 UTC  

Yup

2020-07-06 01:09:09 UTC  

The clearances on your bolt group aren't that tight.

2020-07-06 01:09:26 UTC  

And oil is a hydrocarbon. Oh no carbon. BTW, ignore carbon. Carbon hurts nothing.

2020-07-06 01:10:02 UTC  

It also depends on the type of stuff you use

2020-07-06 01:10:10 UTC  

Carbon buildup is what causes the majority of malfunctions in AR rifles.

2020-07-06 01:10:11 UTC  

@longdickerson Nah, same sights work.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720484562400051201/729504439509188690/20180422_104916.jpg

2020-07-06 01:10:20 UTC  

Some grease is nice and thin, and sticks well to components

2020-07-06 01:10:30 UTC  

> Carbon buildup is what causes the majority of malfunctions in AR rifles.
@Ironman I strongly disagree.

2020-07-06 01:10:31 UTC  

Red dot?

2020-07-06 01:10:35 UTC  

Red dot, yes.

2020-07-06 01:10:46 UTC  

Interesting

2020-07-06 01:10:48 UTC  

Disagree all you want, I know better

2020-07-06 01:11:21 UTC  

Operator error, bad ammo, bad magazines, out of tolerance parts... there is a LONG list of things that cause failures way way before you get to carbon build up.

2020-07-06 01:12:13 UTC  

If its operator err, mags, ammo, etc, then someone should probably seek training. SPORTS is a thing.

2020-07-06 01:12:50 UTC  

Grease loves sand. Sand loves jams

2020-07-06 01:12:53 UTC  

LOL, are you gonna tell ME to seek training? Dude, slow your roll.

2020-07-06 01:13:04 UTC  

If the boot fits

2020-07-06 01:13:31 UTC  

Grease can be used far more sparingly, and doesn't creep like oil. Grease, SPEAKING FROM LONG EXPERIENCE, attracts less fouling and sand.

2020-07-06 01:13:55 UTC  

Capillary attraction. Probably want to google that.

2020-07-06 01:14:22 UTC  

Creep is a good thing.

2020-07-06 01:17:19 UTC  

Not if you want to keep dirt off. The surfaces inside the AR aren't going to corrode, so you don't NEED creep.

2020-07-06 01:18:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720484562400051201/729506474753261598/KIMG0728.JPG

2020-07-06 01:19:36 UTC  

Apologies for the messy bench, but this is what 1500ish rounds look like on grease. All weather, rain or shine (Texas, so mostly shine) blowing dirt, pushing through cedar stands... It's got some gunk on it, but no sand, no foreign materials. And it runs the same as if I'd just cleaned it yesterday.

2020-07-06 01:19:51 UTC  

Small bonus: I can pop my buffer out and it'll be clean. :p

2020-07-06 01:31:10 UTC  

Everything corrodes. Even gold. And that is an extremely dirty bolt carrier group. No wonder you mentioned malfunctions hinting at feed problems. The most crucial part of that group is behind the rings on the bolt. Thats how that system works. The bolt is also the gas piston. Tolerances are crucial. At least its milspec so you can use the forward assist to drive it home. Forget hoppes 9 or anything of the like. Id get some brake cleaner or a solvent tank man.

2020-07-06 01:33:00 UTC  

You may want to look into why the foward assist was even made and why. If you were on an FTX or something you would be having some issues. Range shooting is not comparable to 3 to 5 second rushes in the mud.

2020-07-06 01:37:15 UTC  

I've had one malfunction on this rifle ever, and it was a couple weeks ago when I didn't seat the magazine fully. Oops.

The forward assist has one legitimate use. Quietly loading the rifle. Other than that, you just make problems worse.

This is "extremely dirty"? Pff, it's got another 2K on it before I worry about cleaning it. Hell, the barrel gets too fouled to hold decent groups way before I "need" to clean the bolt group.

2020-07-06 01:39:43 UTC  

And I can do a LOT better than brake cleaner or a solvent tank..

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720484562400051201/729511870314053672/JPEG_20200705_203914.jpg

2020-07-06 01:40:53 UTC  

As far as the rings go, I've only managed to wear one set out in my lifetime, in my last AR. No biggy - wearable item. And they are one of the few parts that do a good job of self-cleaning.

2020-07-06 01:49:23 UTC  

The forward assist was made to shove the bolt into battery in the event the rifle fails to chamber during normal operation. Alot of men died so that little device was invented. Ckeaning kits were also issued for the first time to keep the weapons free of fouling. In a real combat situation, cleanliness means reliability.

Barrel fouling really only affects accuracy. Its important to shoot several rounds through a clean barrel before putting it in the safe. You will most likely not take a shot on a warm barrel when it counts. Fouling helps keep the cold "fliers" from getting away too much.

2020-07-06 01:51:15 UTC  

I use a solvent tank at the race shop. Big enough to drop heads in. Its not heated though, unlike your slow cooker. Lol.