Message from @HUNTER4639

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2020-11-07 15:29:53 UTC  

Fyi that statement is a meme if you didnt know

2020-11-07 15:29:59 UTC  

@DeButcher Okay, sorry, it was a peculiar statement to me

2020-11-07 15:30:07 UTC  

nope, didn't know it

2020-11-07 15:30:13 UTC  

do you have it on hand?

2020-11-07 15:30:24 UTC  

Can i post it here?

2020-11-07 15:30:49 UTC  

Should be able to or just DM it to me

2020-11-07 15:30:59 UTC  

Ok better idea

2020-11-07 15:32:37 UTC  

@DannyNC1 check ur dm

2020-11-07 17:33:30 UTC  

@DannyNC1 "Mormonism"? Well, first we don't go by Mormons and second, we are Christians... Idk why we wouldn't be. We believe in the same God as you, we believe in the bible, we believe there is life after death, we believe there is a heaven and a hell, and more.

2020-11-07 17:35:27 UTC  

There are many differences in what most christians believe and what is stated in the mormon church

2020-11-07 17:35:36 UTC  

I should know

2020-11-07 17:37:13 UTC  

Yes I'm sure there are.

2020-11-07 17:39:19 UTC  

I am not a mormon. I went to a mormon church every other weekend with my dad. Went to a non-denominational church with my mom. There are many things that don't add up to me that are taught in the mormon church.

2020-11-07 17:40:05 UTC  

Could you tell me a few? I can try my best to answer what doesn't make sense.

2020-11-07 17:43:03 UTC  

One) our souls are in heaven before we are born.

2020-11-07 17:43:44 UTC  

Two) when we die, husband and their wives become deities of their own planet

2020-11-07 17:44:50 UTC  

Three) the first prophet saw God and Jesus. Why did his face not shine brightly like when Moses saw God's back?

2020-11-07 17:45:45 UTC  

Four) why would Joseph Smith not allow others to see the tablets?

2020-11-07 18:11:18 UTC  

Ok, so for 1. I did not know that's not what most Christians believe lol. And I really have nothing to say on that since it's just what we believe...

2. That is not a Gospel truth to us. It is just that some members believe that but that is not a doctrine belief.

3. I'm not sure about this... I didn't know that Moses' face shined brightly? That's news to me lol.

4. Joseph Smith did not let others see the plates because God told him not to because they were sacred. He did actually show eight people. three people were showed the plates by an angel. They have written their testimony in doing so. Joseph was also not allowed to show others the plates because the more people they showed the more danger they would be in because after all, they were gold. Even without showing a ton of people they were still in danger and that was just from word of mouth. They had already had their house pillaged a couple of times when mobs were looking for the plates.

2020-11-07 18:13:02 UTC  

Testimony of the three witnesses below

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.

Oliver Cowdery
David Whitmer
Martin Harris

2020-11-07 18:15:19 UTC  

Testimony of the eight witnesses

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

Christian Whitmer
Jacob Whitmer
Peter Whitmer, Jun.
John Whitmer
Hiram Page
Joseph Smith, Sen.
Hyrum Smith
Samuel H. Smith

2020-11-07 18:16:02 UTC  

They were not able to translate it though.

2020-11-07 18:17:51 UTC  

What about the verse in the Bible where it says that if anyone, even an angel, preaches a gospel contrary to the one there, that it is false?

2020-11-07 18:18:53 UTC  

This is something not really talked about either.

2020-11-07 18:19:22 UTC  

what the Hell

2020-11-07 18:19:27 UTC  

@CoolGuard it's not contrary to the bible. We believe in the bible and we believe the Book of Mormon is also the word of God.

2020-11-07 18:19:39 UTC  

Oh God

2020-11-07 18:19:41 UTC  

Mormons

2020-11-07 18:19:42 UTC  

🤢

2020-11-07 18:19:56 UTC  

Corny, if you aren't going to be nice get out

2020-11-07 18:20:01 UTC  

Hey, we’re not here to mock

2020-11-07 18:20:11 UTC  

Ok but he's Mormon lol

2020-11-07 18:20:16 UTC  

They don't have protections

2020-11-07 18:20:17 UTC  

<:KEK:726877368601411624>

2020-11-07 18:20:28 UTC  

?

2020-11-07 18:20:34 UTC  
2020-11-07 18:20:40 UTC  

When your religion is founded by a schizoid pedophile you're immediately invalidated from being taken seriously

2020-11-07 18:20:50 UTC  

<:CursedEmoji:763140778770825247>

2020-11-07 18:21:01 UTC  

It's all good guys I've heard worse....

2020-11-07 18:21:01 UTC  

Who has summoned the great Nancy?!