Message from @mo-me119
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I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a Mormon.
And while it's true that those were during the days He was dead, it still doesn't mean that he was not a divine being communicating with the dead. Isn't prayer simply a communication with a divine being?
Yea, you build a relationship with God through prayer
Also can faith alone save?
Faith without works is dead according to James 2. However, we are not saved by the merits of our works alone. We need both in order to be saved.
Our works are not enough to satisfy the demands of justice. Man is fallen and we all fall short through sin. It is our faith in Christ that brings us to perform the works necessary for salvation and to trust in His grace to make up for what we ourselves never could.
I love that
Yes I agree
Faith gives you works. And it’s that. you’re led into working for the Kingdom of God. You don’t give yourself the stage , you are placed there
So faith alone can save
An example of Faith alone can save is the thief on the cross
Btw its getting late I'm going to go to sleep
Have a good one.
I kind of love that this is here. Huh. (Sorry, new and just poking around, at the moment.)
My favorite Latin phrase, from the Lutheran reformation, still holds true. sola gratia, sola fide, sola Christus, sola scriptura
Grace alone, Faith alone, Christ alone, Scripture alone
And the passage “Faith without acts is dead,” is taken wrong so much, I feel. More people need to know that the phrase means that a Faith that produces no actions is meaningless. Having faith will lead you to want to do good works, to show you’re a person of faith. Just believing without doing though, shows dead faith
I agree. Simply having faith is not the saving grace. The passage in James 2 also says (paraphrased) show me your faith without works and I wil show thee my faith by my works. Faith is merely a stepping off point on the path to heaven, without faith we would have no reason to participate in any of the saving works, we need to live our lives in accordance with our faith through our works.
Eph. 2:8-9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast." Titus 3:5, "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"
As I stated above, neither one will work without the other. Faith without works is dead, however we cannot simply work our way to Heaven. Man is fallen and it is by grace that you are saved, after all that you can do.
Of course, this has been the subject of quite a bit of debate. If it weren't, we wouldn't have multiple Christian denominations.
But when it means faith is dead I agree with thafes crew that it just means its meaningless. Why else would Paul say all who call upon the name if the Lord shall be saved. He knew that it was only by grace and grace alone, none of his good works could have ever gotten him to heaven. The greatest things a Christian can have are faith hope and love.
Has anyone here grown up with Christian parents that didn't go to church or teach you about the bible at home? I did and was lost and was at one point an atheist. I am a relatively new Christian with a lot to learn yet, but wondering if anyone else had a similar experience and what changed for you.
I had always gone to church, until recently
Haven't found one small enough nearby
I preferred smaller ones cause you can have a closer connection with everyone in the church
I am interested in finding a church near me once I don't have to wear a mask in anymore. I've been watching service's online since March. I started going to church at a bigger church that had several campuses but want to go elsewhere now
Hmm idk I suggest to pray and look for a church that matches what you believe God wants you to go to.
Make sure to cross reference the pastor and be sure he's telling the truth
If he doesn't give bible verses to follow along he ain't the best
Thats my opinion
The church I started at had a change in leadership in March right before the pandemic. Although the new pastor has mostly good messages, It doesn't feel like the right place anymore. And they seemed to have caved to BLM which makes me question it. Thank you for sharing
Mhm and yes one thing that I feel churches shouldn't do is get politically involved unless it directly controdics the bible
You have to see what an organization is before you go and support something like blm
Yeah I agree, the leader at our church liked Obama in his first term until he saw him approve of abortion and gay marriage. The church should only get involved in politics if it goes against the Bible.
Yeah if the church has a website go to their about us section and read what they believe in. Saves you alot of time
Thats good advise for modern day churches @DeButcher
My church do not wear mask which i like
Do you guys think charity is more Christian than taxes for the poor
Yes, enforced morality isn’t true morality. Not to mention that money goes more so to line pockets than to help the poor
Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Psalms 82:3 NKJV
@Thunderstr1ke i think taxing people for the poor had good intentions, but in the hands of the government very little goes well