Message from @Raging Smurf
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No, Ezekiel
I can't remember if the Ophanim are by themselves, or I think they have a Cherubim inside
@Raging Smurf Zallis wasn't blaming anyone. He just talked bout the first sin. We are all children of adam and eve. Their disobedience caused the pain and suffering to occur. Same goes with your hypothetical if grandfather wasnt alcoholic and child abuser, then the son and grandson would be fine.
me when catholics say anything
@DeButcher I know he wasn't. I was just commenting on how some people would try to excuse their own bad behavior by saying someone else is responsible.
Yeah, you are responsible for your own sin
Can't blame anyone but yourself
And each generation would sic the responsibility onto someone else until they run out scapegoats.
Oh boy theodicy
My second favorite subject, other than anti-Romanism
We ate the apple
Discussion over
TLDR. Yeah, pretty much.
Now, idolatry
Putting our own desires before God is idolatrous. We put ourselves in the position of the golden calf.
OwO
And we all know what happened to the calf, in the end.
It was sold to Goldman Sachs
Lol
@ADL Don't worry baby we're just joking
(:
Thanks. I'm here all night folks.
Thinly veiled **> > > SARCASTIC < < <** anti-Semitism, theological fundamentalism, and anti-Catholicism.
@tumorito. some even looked like humans like the ones that met with abraham
@Raging Smurf i agree though and im pretty sure that's what i had been talking about correct me if i am wrong.
Biblically accurate Angels look really cool!
@Zallis The Pokemon You're right, I just wished to offer my 2 cents to the conversation.
ah oki lol
though id like to know where they interpret the ring things
the bible says they have many eyes and the eyes are one their wings
covering them
let me get the verse
7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."
revelation 4 7:8
they looked like creatures not amorphous blobs
That is a good question.
9 I looked, and I saw beside the cherubim four wheels, one beside each of the cherubim; the wheels sparkled like topaz. 10 As for their appearance, the four of them looked alike; each was like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 11 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the cherubim faced; the wheels did not turn about[b] as the cherubim went. The cherubim went in whatever direction the head faced, without turning as they went. 12 Their entire bodies, including their backs, their hands and their wings, were completely full of eyes, as were their four wheels. 13 I heard the wheels being called “the whirling wheels.” 14 Each of the cherubim had four faces: One face was that of a cherub, the second the face of a human being, the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle. Ezekiel 10 9-14 nvm found it
Though it also says they have hands
oof that was the cheribum
these verses need to be analyzed in detail lol