Message from @hyperiacob

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2020-12-18 15:59:34 UTC  

Hint: now he's a Christian

2020-12-18 16:40:00 UTC  

@qwerty_😎 I read his book about 4 years ago, it was so great! Have you read his book?

2020-12-18 16:40:35 UTC  

I watched his documentary based on the book.

2020-12-18 16:41:16 UTC  

Ah ok I don’t think I watched that, or maybe if I did I just forgot 🤔

2020-12-18 16:42:10 UTC  

It's now on youtube "The Green Prince"...from his book "Son of Hamas".

2020-12-18 16:59:35 UTC  

Is belif not a matter of choice, but of conviction?

2020-12-18 23:19:34 UTC  

Trusting in Jesus is a choice but as I have progressed with my relationship with Jesus it’s starting to seem more like second nature.

2020-12-19 01:18:48 UTC  

This is the book that brought me to Christ, it talks about the characteristics of a godly man.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/789662989007060992/image0.jpg

2020-12-19 01:56:10 UTC  
2020-12-19 01:56:45 UTC  

I’m here

2020-12-19 01:56:47 UTC  

Hmm they can't have authority in heaven

2020-12-19 01:56:48 UTC  

What up

2020-12-19 01:57:23 UTC  

Only juses

2020-12-19 01:57:43 UTC  

how do we even know that saints exist? they are sinners, just like everyone else, and and they are equally deserving of God's wrath

2020-12-19 01:57:56 UTC  

Only Jesus and God can hear prayers

2020-12-19 01:58:34 UTC  

Jesus is the moderator and god the father is the judge

2020-12-19 01:58:47 UTC  

Their is literally a bible verse that says NO ONE can come to the father but through Me aka Jesus christ

2020-12-19 01:58:51 UTC  

Saints are an earthly ideology. No man has ever been sinless other than Jesus

2020-12-19 01:59:16 UTC  

Give froshe time to respond lol

2020-12-19 01:59:17 UTC  

I can tell you what I believe but I’m really not in a mood to be attacked for my beliefs. I can see we have different views and I’m happy to clarify what’s different, but let’s please be respectful 🙂

2020-12-19 01:59:39 UTC  

Sorry if it seems like we are attacking you

2020-12-19 01:59:42 UTC  

I don't see any attacking. Only conversation

2020-12-19 02:00:12 UTC  

Same

2020-12-19 02:01:23 UTC  

If no one is insulting a person personally then there’s no attacking, just arguing/debating

2020-12-19 02:01:23 UTC  

Hey remember when Jesus says "who is without sin cast the first stone" and the priest were near him

2020-12-19 02:02:16 UTC  

It’s cause the Pharisees were hypocrites

2020-12-19 02:02:36 UTC  

They said to follow the laws but they themselves did not

2020-12-19 02:02:55 UTC  

Democrats are modern day Pharisees

2020-12-19 02:03:40 UTC  

So true

2020-12-19 02:04:51 UTC  

The dems are anti religion

2020-12-19 02:11:35 UTC  

Ok. So I believe in a communion of saints in heaven. Just as we are uplifted and strengthened but a faithful community on earth, I believe the same is true in heaven. The saints act as vehicles to help understand god and his will, not as objects of worship. I don’t believe that praying to saints is blasphemous or in contrary to the commandment to not put false gods before my lord because I do not think the saints are gods. Just as I would ask a friend to pray for me, pray for a sick family member, or pray for an end to abortion, I ask the saints to intercede for me. Though they were not perfect on earth, they are made perfect in their ascension to heaven- nothing impure enters heaven, which is why I believe in purgatory- an opportunity for purification and redemption before entering heaven. Questions?

2020-12-19 02:14:04 UTC  

Why have purgatory when you have an entire life to get saved?

2020-12-19 02:15:04 UTC  

Well you can't pary after death, saints have no power at all they are just like me and you

2020-12-19 02:16:42 UTC  

There no such thing there is even a verse that says you can't pray after death so saints can't ethier they are human not superior humans they are regular humans

2020-12-19 02:17:17 UTC  

Pray* lol

2020-12-19 02:17:23 UTC  

Opps

2020-12-19 02:18:35 UTC  

I haven’t read anything in the Bible about saints being special, except maybe Elijah getting taken to heaven

2020-12-19 02:18:52 UTC  

Because humans are imperfect. There is impurity that seeps into even the most perfect lives. I believe that god is ever merciful. Purgatory is a place where those who have been unable to go to confession or do penance for all their sins can be purified and forgiven before entering into heaven. I believe it is honestly a sign of justice. God forgives humans- those on deaths row and those with near perfect lives. If they truly seek the kingdom of heaven, I believe it is more just that they are in purgatory and do penance as god sees fit before entering the kingdoms heaven.

2020-12-19 02:18:53 UTC  

what does "saint" even mean

2020-12-19 02:19:04 UTC  

Even then, he isn't any different

2020-12-19 02:19:33 UTC  

well, purgatory is a catholic church invention