Message from @Froshe

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2020-12-19 02:28:48 UTC  

Mary is Jesus’ physical mother

2020-12-19 02:29:00 UTC  

Wrong you can have a better connection to God more than a priest

2020-12-19 02:29:39 UTC  

how do they?

2020-12-19 02:29:41 UTC  

I still struggle to strengthen my relationship with Jesus sometimes

2020-12-19 02:30:17 UTC  

i know, im asking if froshe does

2020-12-19 02:30:18 UTC  

Because they have dedicated their life to service and undergone the sacrament of holy orders.

2020-12-19 02:30:35 UTC  

if you have stopped at dedicate their lfie.. I may agree

2020-12-19 02:30:36 UTC  

Many battles, many losses, few victories

2020-12-19 02:30:43 UTC  

but then you went on to holy orders

2020-12-19 02:30:55 UTC  

but anyone can dedicate their life to god

2020-12-19 02:31:13 UTC  

Mary is the mother of Jesus who was both God and man. God exists both before and after Mary

2020-12-19 02:31:28 UTC  

While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Matthew 12:46‭-‬50

2020-12-19 02:31:38 UTC  

mary also right? did she exist before ?

2020-12-19 02:32:06 UTC  

catholics teach that without mary- there owuld be NO jesus lol

2020-12-19 02:32:30 UTC  

Ok m not sure that’s entirely accurate

2020-12-19 02:32:40 UTC  

Jesus used Mary it didn’t need to be Mary in particular

2020-12-19 02:34:42 UTC  

Pope Francis, You would not have Jesus without Mary, so why do you want to have Jesus without Mary?”

2020-12-19 02:34:43 UTC  

But it was her on purpose. Just like god has a plan for all of us he had a plan for Mary long before she was a part of our world

2020-12-19 02:35:53 UTC  

The fact is you wouldn’t have Jesus without Mary. I agree that it didn’t have to be her, but it was her and God had that plan long before she was born

2020-12-19 02:36:18 UTC  

In a way then it did have to be her. Because that was always gods plan

2020-12-19 02:36:29 UTC  

God chose her

2020-12-19 02:36:43 UTC  

He made her to be the mother of his only begotten son

2020-12-19 02:36:44 UTC  

You would still have Jesus without Mary. God could have chosen anyone. But he chose Mary. The person who gives birth to Jesus does not matter.

2020-12-19 02:37:00 UTC  

was mary without sin froshe?

2020-12-19 02:37:07 UTC  

No

2020-12-19 02:37:14 UTC  

Jesus is Jesus no matter who his earthly mother is

2020-12-19 02:37:18 UTC  

thats anothoer catolic teaching

2020-12-19 02:37:24 UTC  

Jesus was the only human to ever be without sin

2020-12-19 02:37:54 UTC  

No but it’s the father who passes down sin the father was the Holy Spirit for Mary

2020-12-19 02:37:55 UTC  

I think you are misconstruing the Catholic Church a bit.

2020-12-19 02:38:28 UTC  

she never sinned

2020-12-19 02:38:42 UTC  

im an ex catholic too

2020-12-19 02:39:01 UTC  

That’s true lol

2020-12-19 02:39:27 UTC  

Dude read the article it says she was saved like the rest of us

2020-12-19 02:39:28 UTC  

I thought it said Mary was conceived without sin lol

2020-12-19 02:39:49 UTC  

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23

2020-12-19 02:40:22 UTC  

no it says she was saved from sinning

2020-12-19 02:40:26 UTC  

and she never sinned

2020-12-19 02:41:34 UTC  

Okay I’m reading in more detail give me a minute

2020-12-19 02:41:38 UTC  

"jesus" was born and lived a sinless life-- not mary.. giving credit to mary for not sinning and placing her as mother of god. .is ridiculous