Message from @ELIS314
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I only care about things that are usefull to me in life
And the bible has something that is useful for me in life but beliving that it is real isnt usefull
If God exists, then that’s great. If God doesn’t exist, then... well... guess something else has to exist.
God is certainly the Supreme Judge of our world and, since he’s above us all, can have a clearer judgment than us, mortals.
from a non-religous standpoint, I would argue that the greatest goal in life is happiness. not frivolity or repose, but true happiness, which is a fruit of labor and a good mental state. I choose to belive in god, if he exists, not because I fear hell, but because I fear the saddness that lack of purpose and nihlism create.
Well he wants to know why God's useful if he's real correct?
But my question is why should I belive in the christian God? Like I want someone to try and sell me their religion instead of trying to sell religion as a whole
**And** the 10 Amendments are rules that should be respected by us all, because they have a reason for being there. They can’t just be said for no reason. God is a philosophical matter, by the way. He doesn’t have to physically exist in order for people to believe in it.
Well a calm and enjoyable life would be it but that is just what you said with less words
Well, our live can’t be truly amazing if we don’t have a purpose. If we don’t have a purpose, then we’re alienated. And God gives us a reason to live.
Ok but why Elohim and not Allah or Jehovah?
Again, you should know why. If you personally relate to the values that the religion is having, then you can believe in it.
I personally I am not Christian, though my religeon states pretty everything in the bible is true. Christianity has a well defined and agreeable (mostly) doctrine that encourages a stoic and kind life.
So if I relate to multiple things in different religions but with no entire religion then what do I do?
I am Christian I believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ and I believe the Bible
There’s a belief that all religions lead to the truth. I forgot it, but it’s essentially that all religions may have the truth.
I don't believe that at all
The resurrection of Jesus isn't even the 6th most important thing about Jesus, there are far more important things about him
Jesus Christ clearly existed. And, as many Christians put it, if you believe in Christ, you believe in God.
Well the resurrection is important
If it didn't happen then he'd be just some crazy man who had some good teaching
Its like how most fiction has a moral behind it
The resurrection shows Jesus’ godly nature... shows that Jesus possesses strengths that are beyond our natural realm. Jesus was born again, just like a Phoenix bird resurrects itself from its own flames.
If you belive that then you dont understand why Jesus was great 😂 to save the world we dont need a man to walk over water but a man that spits fact, and jesus did the both
**And** there is enough proof for religion. You shouldn’t be ignorant of the things that ARE actually true.
Like ? I do appreciate some religious teachings as the bible is a good book but I dont belive that me beliving in God is of any use to me
the most important part of christainty is not faith in god, but faith in his morals, which god stands for because god stands for all things good
Yes, and I believe in these morals
I dont belive morals are a real thing but they are useful so I use them
Morals are REAL, as real as you, me and others.
Morals are definitely real
It's like how money dont have real value but we all belive they have value so they are useful
The thing is that we have different moral codes, and some have worse moral codes, and some have better moral codes.
Like most people understand that not the paper or plastic is important but what we belive about that bacnote makes it powerful and useful
It's not enough to believe in morals--the biggest focus and purpose of Christianity is to point to what God did so our sins can be atoned for, that they will not stand against us on Judgment Day. It is about life after death, where will we go when we die. Morals are good, but your physical life can end at any moment, and where will morals get you then?
To hell
Exactly! It is about the eternal life, about us living forever in Heaven, the place God really wants us to live.
Life is brief compared to after death
You can be a good person but you'll still Go to hell after death you won't go to heaven if you don't believe
The physical world is wicked, sinful, terrible. And I think that socialism is not incompatible with Christianity, like Marx would put it as. Or Lenin. Or Stalin.