Why did Marx say religion was the opium of the masses, I don’t know.

I think a person can have a billion dollars

I don't think it's immoral either

Power and money corrupts.

Opium was a good thing at the time

No, it’s immoral

Like Opium was considered a good thing for a while in history

Why is it immoral for a person to have money just because it reaches a certain amount?

Its about were those dollars come from

1. Because it comes from the exploitation of workers. 2. Because they use their influence to brainwash people into their liberal agenda.

How is it exploiting workers

They agreed to work for the amount they are being paid

By not getting paid, by getting little to no working conditions, by having too many extra hours and not having time to enjoy their life etc

Don't agree to work there then

And many workers HAVE to do these terrible jobs because otherwise they wouldn’t have money at all. But they still can’t survive.

Well workers produce a certain value but from that value the person that doesn't work extracts some of it , literally a person who isn't working gets paid and decides how much the working person is paid

Also, socialized work is incompatible with capitalism

Because one single person takes the credit of the many workers who produce a thing

Workers are the ones who materialize stuff, the CEO just had an idea. That idea could have not been done. Workers are ultimately the ones who are making the final thing. Therefore, they should own the means of production.

Somhow a pice of paper that say " I own stuff" can be a pass to not working for decades

And nowadays, money is worshipped, clothes are worshipped, celebrities are worshipped, but not God. Militant atheism was the worst thing socialism did, in my opinion.

Why are y’all talking about economics in the religion channel 🤔

Because I was explaining about the compatibility of anarchism and Christianity and anarcho-chrestinism and the subject just changed suddenly

again, attempting socilism and communism in this day and age is a bad idea, but certain tools that have been proven to be work in other captilist societies are worth considering implimenting.

Yeah, maybe we don’t have the material conditions to have the socialist revolution.

And if we don’t, I’ll personally wait until it is the perfect time.

Socialism is baby communism and neither have worked for any society lol

You can have some socialist ideals implemented but nothing is totally socialist bc it doesn’t work

and the opium of the masses, paints religeon as a euphoric but ultimly damaging drug, but I would say religion is more like a garden, yielding its fruits to the no so well off and making everyone happier

@Draconem_Dominus I agree with you that this talk about socialism, communism vs. capitalism is not all that appropriate for this channel.

That was the whole point, Marx seemingly hated religion, and so did the Soviet Union until a point

Cuba😂 literally making russian from a medival country to the first country to put people into space😂 easter Europe have the higest amount of people that own their own houses 😂 communism was bad but it has its achievements

I think they should get back to religion personally but

Yes because religion gives you something other than the government to believe in

And what about the millions of deaths it took to get there lol

People living in communist Russia were shit poor and had terrible lives

@Draconem_DominusKarl Marx states that a perfect captilist society is need as a preable for communism, so it won't work for centuries, also socilism worked once, but on a very small scale.

Well there are alternatives to things to belive in outside of religion but if religion will die I prefer for it to die naturally , like that is supposed of what will happen when if socialism was in place (IDK how but people seem to belive that) , anti religious action is really duump

Anyways why are we talking about this in religion

Again

Prob take it somewhere else