Like I dont belive god is real

Well, you are wrong on that

@LuckyPuffy I would dissagree with that, atheism is not inherently bad, it's just one could make an arguement that having faith, even a tiny shred of it is philosophically healthy

But I do find the bible useful as a critique of society

Not trying to be confrontational

God doesn’t have to be right in front of you in order for him to be real.

I will not pretend I belive in something I dont belive in

I think deep down you do realize that God is real, but you're just suppressing it

@ELIS314 I'm not sure i belive in my god either, but the shred of faith I do have helps me greatly

Like I view the bible as a critique of roman society and its downfall and I belive atheists should view it as such

At least the second testament

It’s not a critique. It’s not a look on society. It’s the rules of our society.

god or no god, its has some very good ethics writen in

Well its rules for society so you dont end up like the roman empire

I just dont need God to be real to respect those rules , I dont need anything to do that I just want to

Yes, good ethics, but if you agree with that, you should go on and accept the rest of it--what aren't you accepting of it? The supernatural parts?

No, it’s something even deeper.

Religion is deep.

Yeah ,the supernatural parts are just metaphors

If God did not exist, those rules are arbitrary, so why follow them...?

God is just a metaphor for the world we live in

They are not metaphors

I agree with you.

There’s a thin line here.

They are interwoven through the message of the Bible--the Bible is a supernatural Book because it comes from a supernatural God.

Because they are good rules and a tool for me to live good by, I care about me haveing a good life and self indulgence instead the best life

Soon, you’ll start believing morality is relative, and therefore, you can do whatever you want. And you’ll fall into vice because there’s no objective authority to tell you what’s right or wrong, and if there’s no God, then the rules are useless.

If you accept the Bible, you ought accept the supernatural. It's part and parcel of it.

Like I dont care that jesus walked on water I care that Jesus thought us to care for other people

That's called hedonism. What about what happens to you after you die??

I accept the bible the same way I accept 1984

Pity

Jesus walked on water and turned bread into wine because he is Jesus.

I don’t need any explanation, it’s about faith.

The fact that Jesus is God’s Son explains it all.

I can never know what it will be , there are many versions of what it is and what do I need to do , if there is a God that I will go to heaven because I was a good person, if there is no God I will still win because I was a good person and luved a nice life

The Bible explicitly attacks atheism

Listen, you need to think long and hard about it--there is no legitimate explanation how everything exists without there being a God. It's foolish to think it came about without God being the first cause of its existence.

Like there is this quote from Tesla that kinda explains what I mean

You’re currently having a weak atheism, but what if it becomes stronger?

I think God caused the Big Bang.